Scanners?

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I note that we need scanners of some sort to show our work.

Since I prefer negative scanners for 35, I've been pondering some sort of scanner for 16mm.

I note this on E-bay :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Veho-VFS-002m...d=ViewItem&pt=UK_Scanners&hash=item2c503de652

This little thing has a tray for 35mm slides and negatives AND a tray for 110, which probably can be used for Minolta also....

It's a small USB-scanner that is said to deliver 3600 DPI, translated to 110, this will give approximately 4,3 megapixel and a little less on Minox/Minolta an so on. I suspect the 3600 DPI number is a little optimistic, it is probably some sort of SW in thewre some place...........

I was wondering if anyone has experience with these little devices, they are cheap and cheerful, but suspicion arise.....
 

Iantoz

Hi, I have the Plustek 7200 scanner that I am pleased with, it came with carriers for 35mm negative and slides and I understand it's possible to get 110 (16mm) carriers also. I have seen them advertised in the US, does anyone know where I can purchase one of these?

I am trying to set up for 110 developing and then scanning into my PC.

David.
 

Iantoz

I managed to buy a lot of Fujicolor 200asa cassettes recently. The film is out of date, but I wanted them for the cassettes so that I can reload with B&W. If you need any I can sell some to you for a reasonable price. Let me know, Dai.
 

Iantoz

Hi, I have modified my negative holder from 35mm to 16mm film. I have rescanned a photo and posted it. I did the rescan as a colour neg.
Any comments would be appreciated.

Dai.
 
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What we now are waiting for is pictures of the modified negative holder!
 

Murray Kelly

What Eric is saying is: it is much better and how about showing us how you did it?
The detail is way better. You are on the focal point now.
My scanners are flat-bed and I wonder what goes on inside to accommodate a film holder. Do they adjust the focus somehow or do they accept the system has a certain DoF?
Some upmarket scanners allow manual focusing. I wonder how that is achieved.
Anyway, Dai, they are be much better.
Murray
 

Iantoz

Erik and Murray, I have posted photos of my efforts, with descriptions of my thoughts and assembly methods. I hope it all makes sense to you, if any body has questions please contact me and I will help wherever I can.


Dai.
 

Jayd

I would love to have the Fuji 200 film if there is any chance it is good, either removed from the cassette or possibly trade for Kodak Gold 400.
Please let me know if you have any interest.
Thank you
Jay
 

nei1

the photo that Ive posted here was scanned into my computer using a minolta 5400 mk1 after the neg was put into a minox 8x11 normal size paper slide mount.its very sharp.
 

1965falcon

Hi, Go easy on me, my first post here. I've been shooting minox slide, color and B/w for three years now and I have been using an old canonScan FS2710 utilising the 35mm holder to spread my 8x10 minox negs across for scanning. Using vuescan software, I find it more than adequate to handle these tiny negs.
I am playing with "tech pan,"at the moment, slitting and loading on minox carts (anyone interested?) I am amazed at the resolution of film on a minox after scanning.
I
 

Murray Kelly

Just noticed your last comment and sat up. I am trying to use Imagelink HQ and am having a very long and frustrating time with developers suitable for it.

The best so far is a kind of POTA derivative altho metol at low pH was very promising with test charts but not so good in real life. I should get back to that.

I slit film for the Minox getting 2 from a 35mm width. Haven't had the 'B' for long and went for Polypan F but not too enthused with the sharpness. Something wrong there, I'm sure.It is capable of much better. The Imagelink is 16mm so I haven't tried microfilm in the Minox yet but remembered I have Bluefire (Copex Rapid ) in 35mm.

It would be good to know what you're using for developer for the Tech Pan.

I scan on a 4800dpi scanner from Aldi - Microtek, I believe but the copying to a digital camera attracts if only for the time factor! Whatever I do it has to be improved by a better film holder, 16mm or Minox.

Cheers
Murray
 

Iantoz

Murray, my friend has tried Tech Pan film with little success when it came to developing, he was particularly disappointed as the developer is very expensive.

I took some caffinol developer around to him and we tried a number of different films using it, and to his delight the results with his Tech Pan was an acceptable development.

We used the caffinol + C mixture and feel it needs a little extra.



Hope you are well, regards Dai.
 

Iantoz

Hi everyone, I thought I'd give you all a quick update.

I have managed to graft a Kiev 16mm negative carrier (it came with a Kiev 30 camera I bought) into one of the 35mm slide carriers that I have for the plustek OpticFilm scanner that I have.

It's a little bit of a fiddle but it works well.

Dai.
 

Murray Kelly

Been a long time, Dai. How are you finding the Plustek scanner? I am getting round to thinking about a better scanner.
The one thing I haven't tried is Caffenol C so maybe it needs some work. Did you let it stand or agitate? Or perhaps semi-stand.
Microfilm hilights are the buggaboo but a little ferricyanide helps kill them. Pun intended.

Did you recalibrate the meter on the half frame? I did it once on a Canonet 28 but I had a starting point with a mercury cell. I was setting it up for silver cells.

Cheers
Murray
 

Iantoz

Murray, we've just returned from a holiday around Japan and taking in Vladivostok and Busan. We finished up in Beijing where we were entertained by some Chinese students that had attended the UoW on an MBA course two years ago, they treated us very well.

I bought the Plustek because of the software it came with, and on the whole I'm very pleased with it. The 16mm film is a a bit fiddley but I suspect that would be the case regardless of which scanner you bought.

The meter calibration I have not done yet, but I have rebuilt my light source using a light from an old slide projector complete with the condenser glass. It seems to work well and the cedar I used for the case looks nicer that the my first effort which I'd just painted.

I also have two Canon Dial 35's which give me all the bits I need to make one working camera, apart from the Rollie 35 that needs the film advance adjusted, it's finding the time to do all these things.

I have some 35mm film from my holiday colour and B&W and I have to decide what to develop them in ? caffinol or the tried and trusted way, decisions decisions.

I trust that you're well and look forward to hearing from you and maybe us catching up the next time I visit my daughter,
Dai.
 

Murray Kelly

Sounds like you had a great trip. Berwyn went to N America with a friend but I didn't go. My feet are letting me down badly nowadays.

I have been looking at the Plustek for some time now. There was a lot of skepticism about the claimed ppi but that seems to have gone away. Must be pretty well as said. I think you need something really good to get the most out of these small frames. Admittedly the carrier can be a problem as you note. Minox is a real challenge.

The meter I re-calibrated was really not a total job merely an adjustment of the original 1.35V to 1.55V by adding a series/shunt resistor arrangement. I assumed that it was still OK for the lower volts. I used a lamp with a dimmer and observed the top reading on auto then adjusted the meter to the same reading with the higher voltage. Not the same as you're trying to do. Good luck with that one!

The cameras here that need attention sit and sneer at me for being so slack. I daren't look at them as I pass. :-(

Yes give us a yell next time you come up here. We can compare notes.

Cheers
Murray
 

Iantoz

Hi, an update on my two Canon Dial 35's, I was convinced that I could get a working camera out of these two but so far no luck.
I am now looking at buying a third one but this time a working camera although I have so many cameras now that it's getting rather silly.

Dai.
 

Murray Kelly

Hi, an update on my two Canon Dial 35's, I was convinced that I could get a working camera out of these two but so far no luck.
I am now looking at buying a third one but this time a working camera although I have so many cameras now that it's getting rather silly.

Dai.

Ha! How many is silly? I have over 40 and from what I read that's a drop in the bucket! Not having the sense to use them is silly. Have to decide which to take on a trip Berwyn is dragging me off to and it's darn difficult. The digitals go everywhere nowadays but I like to have a film camera about me and I can't even decide if it's to be 35mm or 16mm or Minox!
I have a Rollie E-110 with some Seagull 120 slit down or the Minox with some Rollei Retro-80S. Or the burgeoning 35mm collection. A rangefinder beckons me there. Doubtless I will decide at the last moment, as usual!

Cheers.
Murray
 

Iantoz

Murray, I go through the same cartwheels before every trip, if it helps I took my Panasonic Lumix tz7 (which takes more pleasing photo's than my Canon DSLR) and an EOS-A2 35mm film camera with two lenses, a 19-35 wide angle zoom and a 28-105 zoom.

I took all the digital pix to keep Barbara happy and when we returned I had fun developing my 35mm B&W film.

Dai.
 

Murray Kelly

Dai, I have pretty well decided on the cameras. I have ordered in some Rollei Retro 80S and with my slitter I can use it in the Minox or a Retina IIa as is. That and a Rollei E-110 with some B&W should more than satisfy any wish I have to take film pics. I won't take the G-11 as Berwyn has a Panasonic TZ something and I always carry a Samsung ST-30 which is actually smaller then a digital Minox with a flash attached.
Such slow film won't be affected by X-ray machines in carry-on bags. Back to a Beutler developer when I return.

Murray
 

Iantoz

Murray, sorry that I have only now read your latest post (almost said last post), and it sounds like you've found the balance of cameras that suits you.
Now as this thread is called scanners I thought I'd get back on track.

I have bought on eBay a second hand Microtek ScanMaker i900 which works extremely well.
When I Google'd the scanner prior to bidding, the comments were that it gives good results but is slow. It may be slow by professional standards but to me it seems OK.

It comes with carriers for, 35mm negs and slides (both hold 12 frames), 120 (4 frames) and 4" x 5" (2 frames) and it also a glass plate A4 size, that lets you put any odd size negs on, with vinyl strips to hold them flat. which is great for all those old negs that I have and of course the 16mm films.

The glass plate doesn't give as good results as the holders, but it's still very good.

My latest toys a Kowa 6 and a Bronica etr, they both give me the quality that I have always sought after, off track again, but at least it's all about the things we love !!!

Dai.
 

Murray Kelly

Dai, no need for apologies. I left it a looooong time myself to reply to Steve.

It so happens I have a Microtek scanner from Aldi. Not sure of the real Microtek number unfortunately as I would like to get the Silverfast software for it. It comes with something else I'm not too sure about but I'm learning slowly. As you comment it is slow. They claim 4800 x 9600 but that seems ridiculous. Especially for a flatbed - even for allowing it uses a film/slide holder. 35mm and less only :-(

From my experience the focal plane is closer to the glass than the slide holder is and thus the sharpness isn't that crash hot with slides.

I will cobble up a better arrangement for the submin stuff myself.

Cheers
Murray
 

Murray Kelly

OK - I went mad and bought a Plustek 8100 which comes with Silverfast SE as a bundle.

Whatever they say abt the scanner it is built like a brick. I ran some 16mm exposed in a Pentax Auto 110 (shanghai SP3) and I could tell the difference between 7200 and 3600 despite some criticism on the net. 35mm probably doesn't matter. Sub-min vitally so.

My complaint is with the film holder and the software. It most difficult to load 16,mm or Minox 9.5mm but it can be done , tho awkwardly.

The software is arcane.

I only wish I knew more about 3D printing so's I could make a carrier for the smaller formats. I think all it would need is a top section suitably modified with 16mm channels. Even Minox would fit in there. The design is click assembled so pulling it apart when needed shouldn't be too much of a problem. I am working on it. I have plenty of copper clad printed circuit board (PCB) and that makes a wonderful building block. Basically all one needs is a channel holding the film flat on the lower half of the film holder. If they didn't have the flamin' clip right bang in the middle it would be a piece of cake.

The trouble with problems like this it occupies your day, when you orta be doing other stuff.

Murray
 
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