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Good grief man, grow up! Being an artist is not like an eight year old playing soccer. You don't get a trophy just for showing up.
You don't get a trophy for trying something new/different. You must produce the good stuff and even then it often isn't recognized.
In fact it is rare that an artist - musician, photographer, novelist, whatever....is even able to support themselves.
Sally Mann is one of the greats. She's done sensitive, insightful, sublime and touching work. This isn't it though. No big deal...

Sometimes when one announces that someone else "isn't it" one is expecting more recognition that one deserves. I think Photrio Media sometimes speaks directly to that.
 

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Sometimes when one announces that someone else "isn't it" one is expecting more recognition that one deserves. I think Photrio Media sometimes speaks directly to that.

I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.
 
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It's interesting and different.

Yes... I've read she's tired of the sort of recognition her "intimate" photos continue to receive from people who are mostly interested in erotic implications.

Conversely, some negate Edward Weston's nudes...not because they're nude but because they reflect EW's actual life and aren't like the Peppers and Point Lobos stuff they wish to define him by.
 

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Yes... I've read she's tired of the sort of recognition her "intimate" photos continue to receive from people who are mostly interested in erotic implications.

Conversely, some negate Edward Weston's nudes...not because they're nude but because they reflect EW's actual life and aren't like the Peppers and Point Lobos stuff they wish to define him by.
Sorry I'm more into his toilet series!! IMHO if people don't get it they won't ever get it. Me I love sally and her reaching process. Mark Osterman has a letter written from Sally wherein she states she's the "worst" photographer. Mark and France his wife taught her wet plate photography.
 
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I’ve always been mesmerized by her work and frustrated at what her arc represents. The family pictures, woof... absolutely stunning, powerful, a set of pictures that belong in the canon of photography. The wet plate southern landscapes are a prime example of the privilege we as viewers grant artists when they move on to new series of pictures. I honestly feel that if those plates were scanned and shared on Instagram, some Facebook wet plate group, or here they wouldn’t be treated the same way. An inherent bias exists that somehow we assume genius and that we simply don’t get it.
 

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I’ve always been mesmerized by her work and frustrated at what her arc represents. The family pictures, woof... absolutely stunning, powerful, a set of pictures that belong in the canon of photography. The wet plate southern landscapes are a prime example of the privilege we as viewers grant artists when they move on to new series of pictures. I honestly feel that if those plates were scanned and shared on Instagram, some Facebook wet plate group, or here they wouldn’t be treated the same way. An inherent bias exists that somehow we assume genius and that we simply don’t get it.
Very nicely said!! Can't please everyone all the time so I got to please myself!
Personally there are way too many critics in the world and not enough artists....reaching is what artists do!
 
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I’ve always been mesmerized by her work and frustrated at what her arc represents. The family pictures, woof... absolutely stunning, powerful, a set of pictures that belong in the canon of photography. The wet plate southern landscapes are a prime example of the privilege we as viewers grant artists when they move on to new series of pictures. I honestly feel that if those plates were scanned and shared on Instagram, some Facebook wet plate group, or here they wouldn’t be treated the same way. An inherent bias exists that somehow we assume genius and that we simply don’t get it.

dod...not meaning to squabble: I don't understand what you mean with "privilege we...grant artists." I think artists generously grant "privilege", not the other way around. Facebook/Instagram inherently appeal to undemanding folks so I don't think views expressed there about "artists" are as significant as views expressed here.

I don't think the term "genius" means anything. Has someone used that term in relation to Mann?
 
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dod...not meaning to squabble: I don't understand what you mean with "privilege we...grant artists." I think artists generously grant "privilege", not the other way around. Facebook/Instagram inherently appeal to undemanding folks so I don't think views expressed there about "artists" are as significant as views expressed here.

I don't think the term "genius" means anything. Has someone used that term in relation to Mann?
just a matter of semantics...words always confuse art.
 

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Beautiful works, soft, alluring and unpretentious. They just gently entice you into a dream, like the last works of Monet's. She will always be a class above the rest.
+1 I think that I read about this project some time ago and if I recall correctly, it was inspired by archival glass plate negs of the deep south from the 19th century. She saw a dream-like quality, a timeless mysterious look produced partly by the subject and partly by the defects of the plates. Again, IIRC, she bought imperfect and even damaged lenses to capture that ancient , dreamy look.

I personally love this work and I am going to buy the book as soon as I sign off Photrio today.
 

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+1 I think that I read about this project some time ago and if I recall correctly, it was inspired by archival glass plate negs of the deep south from the 19th century. She saw a dream-like quality, a timeless mysterious look produced partly by the subject and partly by the defects of the plates. Again, IIRC, she bought imperfect and even damaged lenses to capture that ancient , dreamy look.

I personally love this work and I am going to buy the book as soon as I sign off Photrio today.
You won't be sorry buying the book...its a. Bargain for the price and well done
 

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You won't be sorry buying the book...its a. Bargain for the price and well done

Got my copy of her book last week and was definitely not disappointed. Beautiful work. There is one plate in particular that I find so beautiful: trees in a hollowwith no white in the photograph, just a dense pattern of many grays and some blacks. She has really got me thinking about what it is I really want to capture in a landscape.
 

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Got my copy of her book last week and was definitely not disappointed. Beautiful work. There is one plate in particular that I find so beautiful: trees in a hollowwith no white in the photograph, just a dense pattern of many grays and some blacks. She has really got me thinking about what it is I really want to capture in a landscape.
Glad you liked it..beautiful book
 
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