RZ67 for Panoramic 35mm

Omid_K · Jun 7, 2019

This may be a little out there but please humor me. I’ve seen 3D printed components that can take a roll of 35mm and allow it to be shot through a medium format camera. Has anyone experimented with using such a hack to create panoramic images on 35mm? I’ve looked a bunch online but haven’t found anyone talking about this. I’d love to try this out but I’d save some headache, heartache, and film if anyone knew exactly where to mask off the viewfinder. Would the ratio be anywhere near that of the XPan? Besides that I wonder if the backing plate would be an issue since there’s only the thickness of the film and not the paper. I guess I should mention that I’m not ready to part with the money it would take to dive into the XPan market (I know there cheaper alternatives). I’d just love to experiment with the wide format aspect ratio to see if I even have what it takes to meaningfully compose in such a way.

Thanks,
Omid

mshchem · Jun 7, 2019

Omid_K said:
This may be a little out there but please humor me. I’ve seen 3D printed components that can take a roll of 35mm and allow it to be shot through a medium format camera. Has anyone experimented with using such a hack to create panoramic images on 35mm? I’ve looked a bunch online but haven’t found anyone talking about this. I’d love to try this out but I’d save some headache, heartache, and film if anyone knew exactly where to mask off the viewfinder. Would the ratio be anywhere near that of the XPan? Besides that I wonder if the backing plate would be an issue since there’s only the thickness of the film and not the paper. I guess I should mention that I’m not ready to part with the money it would take to dive into the XPan market (I know there cheaper alternatives). I’d just love to experiment with the wide format aspect ratio to see if I even have what it takes to meaningfully compose in such a way.

Thanks,
Omid

Don't spend your money on an XPan unless you have plenty to go around. I would find a old 220 back for a trial. The 220 backs sell for CHEAP. XPAN is a neat camera. Very expensive with no spare parts.
Try it with whatever back you have. Xpan is something like 24x60 mm.

k.hendrik · Jun 8, 2019

You can 'hack' any format to a RZ67; 16x70mm, 26x56, 35x70, 46x70 (or even 9x12cm, well not so panoramic but doable) Make your own (takeup)spools in what ever your size you wish from old 120 spools.
Draw a thin line in the middle on your mask as a artificial horizon & after that its a bit of guessing
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77846450@N00/27185894158/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...4-exp-weird-problem.95043/page-2#post-2164815
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77846450@N00/18048569815/in/dateposted-public/

EdSawyer · Jun 8, 2019

Mamiya made a 35mm adapter for the Mamiya 7. It might fit the RZ - hard to guess.

Grim Tuesday · Jun 9, 2019

If you don't already have an RZ67 then your cheapest, best option is something like a Koni Omega 200 or a Mamiya Universal. The Universal would be totally cool with a 35mm adapter because the resulting frame would be 24 x 90 mm ! With the 50mm lens it would be even wider than the xpan. The cheaper option is the KO 200 with the 58mm lens, which would be somewhat less wide than the xpan. Alternatively if you don't want to go through the hassle, just use regular 120 film in an RZ67 or your horizontally advancing medium format camera of your choice with a wide angle lens and crop it in the dark room or in Photoshop...

abruzzi · Jun 9, 2019

When I looked at some of the adapters to fit a 35mm cassette into a medium format camera, they came with warnings that they only worked with cameras with a straight film path and not cameras with a curved path like Hasselblads. I’d guess the RB 67 would come under that heading. I’ve contemplated getting it for a Pentax 67 which has a straight path, but I’ve never broken down and tried it.

soulstar89 · Jun 14, 2019

Omid_K said:
This may be a little out there but please humor me. I’ve seen 3D printed components that can take a roll of 35mm and allow it to be shot through a medium format camera. Has anyone experimented with using such a hack to create panoramic images on 35mm? I’ve looked a bunch online but haven’t found anyone talking about this. I’d love to try this out but I’d save some headache, heartache, and film if anyone knew exactly where to mask off the viewfinder. Would the ratio be anywhere near that of the XPan? Besides that I wonder if the backing plate would be an issue since there’s only the thickness of the film and not the paper. I guess I should mention that I’m not ready to part with the money it would take to dive into the XPan market (I know there cheaper alternatives). I’d just love to experiment with the wide format aspect ratio to see if I even have what it takes to meaningfully compose in such a way.

Thanks,
Omid

i have a rz67 proii and have been also interested in trying to shoot pano in my camera. i found this video: they use a rb67 and use the 3d printed 35mm spools. i asked about its use in the comments.

regarding the mask you just get a cardboard and cut out the aspect ratio. You will get around 24x65/70.

i am actually trying to find someone who would be willing to make 6x12 coupled rangefinder.

k.hendrik · Jun 15, 2019

after 10 days OMiD didn't come back to us so maybe his problem is solved or disappeared

Grim Tuesday · Jun 16, 2019

What camera did you use for those shots, Hendrik? They look very cool!

MattKing · Jun 16, 2019

Grim Tuesday said:
What camera did you use for those shots, Hendrik? They look very cool!

The thread title and the home-made adapters illustrated at the beginning of the post suggest to me that it was an RZ67, although the adapters look similar to the ones I've tried out in my RB67.

k.hendrik · Jun 17, 2019

Grim Tuesday said:
What camera did you use for those shots, Hendrik? They look very cool!

RZ67 with 50mm and the color with SL66se 50mm.

soulstar89 · Jun 23, 2019

k.hendrik said:
after 10 days OMiD didn't come back to us so maybe his problem is solved or disappeared

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what back did you use? i have a rz67 and wondered if you had any issues with keeping the film flat?

k.hendrik · Jun 24, 2019

soulstar89 said:
what back did you use? i have a rz67 and wondered if you had any issues with keeping the film flat?

rz67 pro II

soulstar89 · Jun 25, 2019

k.hendrik said:
rz67 pro II

sorry i meant what film back did you use. 6x45,6x6,120 or 220.

i also have a rz67 proii

k.hendrik · Jun 25, 2019

6x7 proii, I have also a 26x56 back but then the sprockets aren't visible

soulstar89 · Jun 26, 2019

k.hendrik said:
6x7 proii, I have also a 26x56 back but then the sprockets aren't visible

i rememeber speaking to you a while ago now regarding the 26x56 back. if you ever want to give it a new home i am more that happy to adopt

hope you are well

k.hendrik · Jun 26, 2019

soulstar89 said:
i rememeber speaking to you a while ago now regarding the 26x56 back. if you ever want to give it a new home i am more that happy to adopt

hope you are well

Still shooting; so you'll have to be patient

Jeremy Mudd · Jun 28, 2019

First post here, have been reading the forum for a while but wanted to add to the conversation. I've shot many 35mm pano images on my RB67 ProSD with a set of adapters I bought from eBay and a 220 back. Typically I get around 17 shots per roll of 36exp 35mm film. I had to do a little modification to the back so that the counter works properly but other than that its basically plug and play. The only drawback, if you could call it that, is that once done you just have to put the back in your bag or pack and then later when at home in a dark room or changing bag you can remove the roll and then develop it. Since there's no provision for take-up once shot.

Jeremy Mudd · Jun 28, 2019

I should have also added that I made a drop-in mask for the viewfinder to show only the field of view of the 35mm neg area. I made it from 0.5mm black poly and its cut to fit just inside the border perimeters of the viewfinder. I store the mask and the 220 back with the adapters in their own separate bag together so I don't misplace the mask. Composing without it isn't much fun!

Dani · Apr 2, 2020

soulstar89 said:
i rememeber speaking to you a while ago now regarding the 26x56 back. if you ever want to give it a new home i am more that happy to adopt

hope you are well

So that back accepts 35mm or is it more like 120 that is being cropped in camera? There's one on ebay right now without the mask for the holder but I'd definitely would like to know more information about that back.

k.hendrik · Apr 3, 2020

Dani said:
So that back accepts 35mm or is it more like 120 that is being cropped in camera? There's one on ebay right now without the mask for the holder but I'd definitely would like to know more information about that back.

Reading helps if you want to know more.

Dani · Apr 3, 2020

I'll go back to 1st grade and come back in 7 years once I learn, thanks.

k.hendrik · Apr 3, 2020

HF; read this thread !!

RZ67 for Panoramic 35mm

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