Not for me. My last bottle, from around August last year, was still the good ol' syrupy stuff.Old news....
Thanks. I guess we'll see.summary: looks different, works the same, unknown whether it lasts as long.
I'm sort of going in the opposite direction. I've used all of the films in question over the years and I've decided I like the TMax films the best. My arriving at that conclusion is coincidentally on the same spot in the timeline as the draw down of my 2nd to last bottle of original HC 110. I've decided that since extensive testing of the new HC 110 indicates it is essentially the same stuff as the old - despite being runnier, means that I stay with it. I am in love with the TMax 400/HC 110 (E) combo and have enough experience with the other choices to feel like I know what I like. I don't give any kind of shit whose name is on the label of the bottle as long as the stuff inside is the stuff I want.I still have 3/4 of a litre of the original stuff and when that is done, I will be seamlessly transitioning on to Ilford Ilfotec HC. This is probably the end of Kodak products for me, as I no longer use their film, preferring HP5+ in most respects. Well done Alaris, you changed the one remaining thing left in my inventory and your film is 1 1/2 times more expensive than Ilford so it is beyond my pocket.
"New Formula"? Why mess with a good thing? .....
They had to find another contractor to make it, and it was apparently cheaper and easier to make it with a water base than the more difficult water-free original.
At the loss of it's legendary shelf life.
But compare the price of HC-110 to Ilfotec HC.
HC-110 is over £36 per litre
Ilford Ilfotec HC is £25 (best price).
So suddenly the difference is almost totally reversed. Which tells you a lot about pricing policy and nothing about real cost differences. I am amazed that Ilford sells any of its HC in the U.S. with this kind of a difference but the Freestyle price may bear almost no relationship to Ilford's price to the "landed at the U.S. docks price"Freestyle:
Kodak HC-110 1L: $34.99
Ilford HC 1L: $64.99
Freestyle:
Kodak HC-110 1L: $34.99
Ilford HC 1L: $64.99
I'm sort of going in the opposite direction. I've used all of the films in question over the years and I've decided I like the TMax films the best. My arriving at that conclusion is coincidentally on the same spot in the timeline as the draw down of my 2nd to last bottle of original HC 110. I've decided that since extensive testing of the new HC 110 indicates it is essentially the same stuff as the old - despite being runnier, means that I stay with it. I am in love with the TMax 400/HC 110 (E) combo and have enough experience with the other choices to feel like I know what I like. I don't give any kind of shit whose name is on the label of the bottle as long as the stuff inside is the stuff I want.
The US is Ilford's largest market. And they have a single, exclusive US distributor, unlike Kodak.So suddenly the difference is almost totally reversed. Which tells you a lot about pricing policy and nothing about real cost differences. I am amazed that Ilford sells any of its HC in the U.S. with this kind of a difference but the Freestyle price may bear almost no relationship to Ilford's price to the "landed at the U.S. docks price"
pentaxuser
So suddenly the difference is almost totally reversed. Which tells you a lot about pricing policy and nothing about real cost differences. I am amazed that Ilford sells any of its HC in the U.S. with this kind of a difference but the Freestyle price may bear almost no relationship to Ilford's price to the "landed at the U.S. docks price"
I don't know if I could, considering the fact that I've used TMax developer only once and that was 20 years ago.Now honestly, would you be able to differentiate it from Tmax developer?
Many people can’t tell the difference between tmax developer vs new hc-110 vs D76.
Me, I want the syrup. I don’t care if the new is the same as the old, I just want it to be syrup. No syrup? No money.
Total reversal. Makes no sense. It all comes, (came) from Tetenal anyhow. They used to make their own version called Neopress, but it vanished from the market about when Kodak went to Tetenal for manufacture of HC-110.Freestyle:
Kodak HC-110 1L: $34.99
Ilford HC 1L: $64.99
There seem to have been many MSDSs throughout its history, and the formula appears to been tweaked, adjusted etc. over time. For example, the “old” MSDS you posted looks different than older versions I recall seeing.
Diethanolamine/sulfur dioxide addition product was the source of sulfite.
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