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I just shot a couple of new rolls of Kodak Tri-X in my Pentax 67, yesterday, and noticed that it has a very glossy surface on the back of the paper backing; kind of like what roll film paper backing looked and felt like from the 50's. Before I go wasting a roll of this film in my Rolleiflex, has anybody had any issues with the transport system recognizing the start of the film?

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I noticed that right away, it appears to have coating over the ink printing. Very good to prevent ink transfer. I've run it through Mamiya 6 MF, Fuji 6x9 rangefinders no problem. These rely on the paper spinning a roller for the frame counter. No problems at all. I can't believe Kodak would sell 120 film that wasn't compatible with a Rolleiflex of course, trying is the only way to know.
 

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I noticed this too. After I finished the roll with my 500CM I wind it a few more times but the little piece of adhesive strip came a bit off and trapped underneath the film paper which I took off and stuck it on manually.
 

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There's a rough test you can do. Snip off a piece of the backing paper, maybe 3 inches long (Just reshape a tab to go in the slot of the spool and be miserly in winding when loading).

You are going to pull this piece of paper through the rollers as if you are starting a roll. In the middle, put a piece of masking tape. It needs to be a solid masking tape type. Duct tape is too thick, scotch cellophane tape is too thin.

Remove the back. Put the camera on its top. Inside the film chamber you'll see a little black foot on the wind side. As you push this towards the front of the camera, you'll see the lower silver rod lift up. You are going to want to push this foot to its stop. Medium pressure. There will be a sort of a subtle 'oh I think that's it' moment as it engages a part inside but push a little more.

Ok, with foot relaxed, put the backing paper between the spools as if loading. Now push the black foot to its stop. Pull the backing paper through the rollers so that the masking tape passes between the rollers. You will hear it clunk if it is working and the lower roller will release.

If this doesn't pop the Automat, put a piece of film (clip off from a roll) under the tape and see if this does it.

Even if the Rolleiflex doesn't pop with the new paper, you can just wind the film through and then respool it back in a changing bag or darkroom.

The new Kodak paper is one of my test papers all the time because it is thin. Fuji is also thin. Fomapan's black paper is about the thickest I have run across. I test so both work. It usually means adjusting the trip point
 

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I haven't had any problems with the Kodak backing in any of my cameras that can count frames.

Does the Rolleiflex use an optical reader? I suppose that might get confused, but as far as I know, most cameras use a mechanical roller.
 
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I haven't had any problems with the Kodak backing in any of my cameras that can count frames.

Does the Rolleiflex use an optical reader? I suppose that might get confused, but as far as I know, most cameras use a mechanical roller.

No, it's mechanical.
 
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Thanks, Dan, I will try your test. Personally, I've never had much luck rolling 120 back onto a spool to be used, again. I always seem to get a slight "kink" in the film or don't get it tight enough. But, before I waste a roll I'll certainly give it a go.
 

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Carefully lift the tape and reset it without the bulge
 

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You won’t ruin the film. You can always respool in the dark. I’d simply load the camera while in the darkroom and see if it loads correctky. If the film goes past the 1st frame, take it out and respool it.


I just shot a couple of new rolls of Kodak Tri-X in my Pentax 67, yesterday, and noticed that it has a very glossy surface on the back of the paper backing; kind of like what roll film paper backing looked and felt like from the 50's. Before I go wasting a roll of this film in my Rolleiflex, has anybody had any issues with the transport system recognizing the start of the film?

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I alway count how often I had to turn the crank. 5 times and all is ok. If not, you may respool the film in darkness.
I would check that at home and not at the set.
 
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