Of the photographers whom I have personally known, the one whose results were best used one film, Plus-X, and one developer, D-76, and just got on with it. Times have changed since then, especially the price of film. I can understand anyone trying to find a combination that can utilize a cheaper film.
I have done some tinkering over the years, but as old age becomes reality, and time is running out, I'm happy to have settled on one main film developer, Pyrocat-HD. My tinkering will be limited to some semi-stand experiments with some outdated Neopan400. I found this interesting:
https://gitbucket.tundraware.com/tundra/Stand-Development/tree/master
I know many APUGers have been very vocal about their dislike for Jay and his developers, but this is not a thread about him or his history in this site. It's a thread about attempts to nail down the developer of a particular film with a particular developer. It should be possible to discuss the developer without bringing up any baggage people may have about its creator, right?
I might do that, John. I actually posted a photo from this roll on Flickr and he commented on it, so I'll just figure out how to send PMs on that platform (I just started using it).hey Andre
why don't you contact jay himself and have a conversation with him. I've never used the developer or film you are asking for advice &c
... jay's a nice guy and probably would give you some insights. regarding people's dislike for him
I never have had anything but admiration for him .. its just the "old guard" as he called it ( you might realize there are people online who are over 50-something and are established with reputations &c from before the internet ) who didn't like jay encroaching on their territory so they got all bent out of shape.
I had similar problems with so-called caffenol-experts ... people are strange ...
That's good to know! Maybe I gave those horror stories about this film too much creditI've shot a lot of Rollei Retro 80 S as a panchromatic film at EI=40 and as an infrared film behind a IR720 filter at EI=4. It goes into the same developing tank together with other films and gets 11minutes 15 seconds at 20C in replenished Xtol agitated intermittently like any other film. The negatives are amenable and predictable and print easily on variable contrast paper.
I might do that, John. I actually posted a photo from this roll on Flickr and he commented on it, so I'll just figure out how to send PMs on that platform (I just started using it).
Yeah, the old guard here is a trip. Too many people more worried about being right then about making/enjoying/appreciating photography... And God forbid someone experiments and ends up with something different or fun!
Hey, thanks! That saved me the trouble of looking this up!to message someone you click on their avatar and there is an envelope, to see your mail you click on your icon top right corner of the page and see "flickr mail
Personally I like this film, wish it was available in sheets. Most of what I’ve shot is in a pinhole camera with an IR-720 filter, and the results, while typically “pinhole-ish”, have a nice “creamyness” in the tones lending a more dreamy feeling. An ISO of 1 at f/128 makes for interesting photo outings.That's good to know! Maybe I gave those horror stories about this film too much credit
I bet! Sounds like the kind of photo outing you bring a good book to
Personally I like this film, wish it was available in sheets. Most of what I’ve shot is in a pinhole camera with an IR-720 filter, and the results, while typically “pinhole-ish”, have a nice “creamyness” in the tones lending a more dreamy feeling. An ISO of 1 at f/128 makes for interesting photo outings.
I've read this in many posts in various websites, but the datasheets from Agfa and Rollei don't bear this out. Looking at the spectral sensitivity chart for each film, it seems that Retro 80s is Aviphot Pan 80, and RPX 25 is Aviphot Pan 40:if you are talking about RR80, it is. RPX 25, according to people I trust and thru my own experience, is the same emulsion. the RR80 is finished by foma and rpx 25 is finished by harman. the sheet film is nice, but man, is it really thin. hard to not accidentally load 2 sheets and also it likes to misbehave with my mod54 holder when developing. but still, gives great results.
john
I did not know this.if you are talking about RR80, it is. RPX 25, according to people I trust and thru my own experience, is the same emulsion. the RR80 is finished by foma and rpx 25 is finished by harman. the sheet film is nice, but man, is it really thin. hard to not accidentally load 2 sheets and also it likes to misbehave with my mod54 holder when developing. but still, gives great results.
john
Wow I never expected such a wide a range of views about tinkering It has to be nearly as wide as the range here
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