roll film tank mechanical agitator - can it be built simply?

Ian Grant · Nov 16, 2019

Jeremy, one of my best friends from the age of 4 was or rather is Spastic, a term we no longer used for Spina Bifida suffers.

Until her late teens she was helped to dress, feed and was dependant on others, her parents became alcoholics and split up, they found it hard to cope with her needs and couldn't agree. At that point with useless parents her brothers didn't help. Within a couple of years she was self dependant doing everything taht had previously done for her.

She applied to work for "Guide Dogs for the Blind" here in the UK and was turned down as they said she was disabled. she stuck two fingers up at them and set up kennels breeding potential Guide dogs. Now with poor mobility she heads a disability charity, in over 60 years I've never once heard whinges from her like yours.

Ian

MattKing · Nov 16, 2019

Ian Grant said:
Jeremy, one of my best friends from the age of 4 was or rather is Spastic, a term we no longer used for Spina Bifida suffers.

Spasticity - involuntary muscle movement - is a characteristic of a number of conditions.
I experience a small amount of it, but don't have Spina Bifida.
"Spastic" is a thoughtless and derogatory label which irritates me greatly, but thankfully I rarely hear it now, because during my teenage years .....

choiliefan · Dec 6, 2019

Depends on the context.
The word "spastic" is loaded with marvelous imagery.
Think "spastic colon"...

Ian Grant · Dec 6, 2019

I've reported Jeremy Rundle's post #32 to the Moderators. He has an interest in the completely untested agitators that his son is making with him.

"No I can not show a negative for two reasons, first anything can be made to look good, after all every new washing powder is whiter than the last !!!, second asking me to do that is not possible as I am not as qualified as proper film users and have just returned to film after 40 years."

Before offering something for sale it needs testing properly but no effort has been made to do this.

Ian

R.Gould · Dec 6, 2019

Please Mr Jeremy Rundle no more of your ranting and raving, My wife, a nurse who worked with Autitsic people,both young and old, and myself, now retired, we still work with autism, we have several friends who are autistic, we are befrienders, and it takes time and patience, both of which we have in spades, and never ever have we come across someone like you appear to be, insulting,to pretty much anyone you take a dislike to, and you did not leave another forum, you were kicked off of it for a insults to several members who tried to help you, all over this film agiitar and mostly because you were asked a simple question, back your claims of this ''invention'' of you and your sons, which you have completely failed to do. so don't call Ian and others liars when you blatantly tell lies your self, I have , like Terry, tried to stay out of this, but you have made my blood boil by giving autisum and Asbergers a bad name, never have I met, in nearly 70 years of life, anyone as plain nasty as you, rant over and I will now ignore you, which is better than you deserve
Richard

choiliefan · Dec 6, 2019

As an aside, IIRC the urinals in my jr high boys room (c1966) were made by the American-Rundle Co.
Sorry...

tezzasmall · Dec 6, 2019

Mr Jeremy S Rundle said:
At least I was HONEST.

Oh and for EVERYONE to note this person has abused me another forum which I have just left because of his abuse, please note this.

Lies!!! Lies!!! Lies!!!

You were the abuser and you were banned for this reason earlier today on the other site.

Can you tell any truth???

Rick A · Dec 6, 2019

tezzasmall said:
Lies!!! Lies!!! Lies!!!

You were the abuser and you were banned for this reason earlier today on the other site.

Can you tell any truth???

Don't feed the creature living under the bridge.
Proverbs 18:2 ESV
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
Proverbs 29:9 ESV
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

Ian Grant · Dec 6, 2019

Jeremy Rundle's dishonesty is amazing, in another post he claims he bought an Agitator, The truth is quite different he and his son are building them (or maybe re-badging them). I've been very careful not to be abusive to someone who trades on his issues. CAlling a Spade a Spade is not abusive it's honesty.

Rick you are right, I'm not religious but you're right:

Rick A said:
Don't feed the creature living under the bridge.
Proverbs 18:2 ESV
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
Proverbs 29:9 ESV
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

I'd just add don't feed the Troll

Ian

MattKing · Dec 6, 2019

Mr Jeremy S Rundle said:
""Spastic" is a thoughtless and derogatory label which irritates me greatly"

and would any sane decent person which some people as shown are not

Spastic is a technical term. It can be used in a heartless and cruel way, but it is quite appropriately used by doctors and therapists to describe a particular type of condition and circumstances.
As I have previously posted, I experience a relatively low amount of spasticity myself, and can thus be accurately described as "spastic" in certain circumstances.
I also was once an awkward teen - I understand how painful such a label can be when applied heartlessly by the ignorant.

Ian Grant · Dec 6, 2019

Labels like Spastic and even Dementia make conditions sound far worse than they often are in reality, they hide someone's true disabilities under a convenient Label and also hide their personality. Labels also don't indicate the degree of the disability

I saw my childhood "Spastic" friend go from someone who had to be fed, helped to dress, and when I left the same school my sister helped feed her and later my younger sister to being totally self sufficient, Reality was no-one encouraged her to try for herself and she had very wealthy parents she found freedom when she raeched for it.

My mother was diagnosed with Vascular Dementia around 15 years ago, she could actually remember the first mini-stroke, but she was still quite capable for another few years and could live on her own. Then I with my wife's help became her carer.

Playing on disability issues on Forums as an excuse to how one posts is sick, but it's on a par with Jeremy's lying.

Ian

mshchem · Dec 6, 2019

This thread is like a bad car accident. I just can't resist slowing down to look. .

awty · Dec 6, 2019

R.Gould said:
Please Mr Jeremy Rundle no more of your ranting and raving, My wife, a nurse who worked with Autitsic people,both young and old, and myself, now retired, we still work with autism, we have several friends who are autistic, we are befrienders, and it takes time and patience, both of which we have in spades, and never ever have we come across someone like you appear to be, insulting,to pretty much anyone you take a dislike to, and you did not leave another forum, you were kicked off of it for a insults to several members who tried to help you, all over this film agiitar and mostly because you were asked a simple question, back your claims of this ''invention'' of you and your sons, which you have completely failed to do. so don't call Ian and others liars when you blatantly tell lies your self, I have , like Terry, tried to stay out of this, but you have made my blood boil by giving autisum and Asbergers a bad name, never have I met, in nearly 70 years of life, anyone as plain nasty as you, rant over and I will now ignore you, which is better than you deserve
Richard

Actually asperger syndrome covers a wide spectrum and effects people differently. Its only the last 20 years that its become better understood. Often people with this have physiological problems caused by people with indifference to it. My grade 7 teacher use to make the kids who had learning difficulties (probably aspergers) have there desks at the back of the class room, facing the back wall so she would not have to engage with them. Even recently there has been cases of kids getting locked in store rooms or other means of exclusion. My step son has Asperges and he had a torrid time during school, first miss diagnosis and drugs that were ineffective Lucky he was diagnosed correctly just before high school and was supervised by the special education unit, who had at least one person who fully understood what Asperges is. If not for her he would not of made it through school. Still use to dread the phone calls from the school of what he had done wrong AGAIN, was often yelled and abused by frustrated teachers and spent a few times on suspension. Cant blame them too much as I am guilty of the same. Asperges people can be hard work, yelling and chastising is as effective as doing it to the wall. Anyway Jeremy is smart enough to list his conditions, shows every bit of the signs for these condition, so at least has an excuse.
The Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

R.Gould · Dec 7, 2019

awty said:
Actually asperger syndrome covers a wide spectrum and effects people differently. Its only the last 20 years that its become better understood. Often people with this have physiological problems caused by people with indifference to it. My grade 7 teacher use to make the kids who had learning difficulties (probably aspergers) have there desks at the back of the class room, facing the back wall so she would not have to engage with them. Even recently there has been cases of kids getting locked in store rooms or other means of exclusion. My step son has Asperges and he had a torrid time during school, first miss diagnosis and drugs that were ineffective Lucky he was diagnosed correctly just before high school and was supervised by the special education unit, who had at least one person who fully understood what Asperges is. If not for her he would not of made it through school. Still use to dread the phone calls from the school of what he had done wrong AGAIN, was often yelled and abused by frustrated teachers and spent a few times on suspension. Cant blame them too much as I am guilty of the same. Asperges people can be hard work, yelling and chastising is as effective as doing it to the wall. Anyway Jeremy is smart enough to list his conditions, shows every bit of the signs for these condition, so at least has an excuse.
The Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

My wife and mysself know that Asbergers was a little understood problem by many people, it is a form of autism and has in recent years become a lot more understood, but it is something that does. as with any autism, keep sufferes apart from so called society,but thanks to some brave sufferes it has come more to the forefront and is know more understood, I di understand and my remarks were , but it is his attitude mot only here but on Fadu, from which he has been banned, that makes my Wife suspect that there is a lot more going on with him than simply autism/asbergers, she spent half of her working life working with them and has never come across anyone with his attitude to thins, if you could have read his last posts them you might have got a better idea, they were not just rude as you might expect from someone with asberger but not from autistic folk, but were completly insulting to everyone on the forum, not just Ian, difficult to expplain you would havs to have been there to understand, he insulted even members who had defended him, and that is why in the end the adnim was forced to ban him,

awty · Dec 7, 2019

R.Gould said:
My wife and mysself know that Asbergers was a little understood problem by many people, it is a form of autism and has in recent years become a lot more understood, but it is something that does. as with any autism, keep sufferes apart from so called society,but thanks to some brave sufferes it has come more to the forefront and is know more understood, I di understand and my remarks were , but it is his attitude mot only here but on Fadu, from which he has been banned, that makes my Wife suspect that there is a lot more going on with him than simply autism/asbergers, she spent half of her working life working with them and has never come across anyone with his attitude to thins, if you could have read his last posts them you might have got a better idea, they were not just rude as you might expect from someone with asberger but not from autistic folk, but were completly insulting to everyone on the forum, not just Ian, difficult to expplain you would havs to have been there to understand, he insulted even members who had defended him, and that is why in the end the adnim was forced to ban him,

I know nothing about Jeremy, but its obvious he has some issues, his signature line explains part of. I'm no expert on dealing with such people, but doubt chastising or arguing with him in public will be of any benefit.
I do know a fella who frequented several different audio forums, who has asperger's. He managed to be banned from all but one. On that forum they gave him his own thread where he could post his often repetitive posts and only the more tolerant would reply. Occasionally he would over step the mark and mods would give him a holiday and he would come back and all would be good again. Seems to of worked because he's been there for a long time now.
I regularly see people come on forums who obviously have some issues, they often don't last long, which is a shame as they often come up with a different and sometimes interesting perspective, it may not always be a good perspective, but I like different. Too much sameness in the world.
If someone is being overbearing, let the mods take care of it.

Anyway must get back on to vedostuus contraption is brilliant and I want one.

choiliefan · Dec 7, 2019

Best response yet but not sure whether it's a slow-burn or thoughful silence.

Fritzthecat · Dec 7, 2019

mshchem said:
This thread is like a bad car accident. I just can't resist slowing down to look. .

Don't forget to take time to poke the bear on the way through.

Fritzthecat · Dec 7, 2019

The way I see it, "Handicapped" is a state of mind. Physical and/or mental limitations and challenges can either be used as a reason to push harder to overcome, or as an excuse to be pitied, or used as a club to force your will on others, or to get your way, or make oneself important. Just an opinion.

R.Gould · Dec 7, 2019

Most Handicaped folk I know, and I know a lot both mentally handicaped, or as we say over here people with learning disability, or phsical are more often than not happy and content with life, just making the best of life, sometimes they get frustrated with some peoples attitude, the worst for some is if they are in a wheelchair and being pushed is when people say something like how is he or she then as if the person in the wheelchair is not there, but on the whole they have the attidude of life is what you make it, there are jobe for the indeed the recycling center is run by a a company that was set up to gice people with handicaps a way to start in work, and it is very succesfull many companies, including shops, work with a work scheme for handcaped and people with learning diffculties,
Richard

Ian Grant · Dec 7, 2019

Fritzthecat said:
The way I see it, "Handicapped" is a state of mind. Physical and/or mental limitations and challenges can either be used as a reason to push harder to overcome, or as an excuse to be pitied, or used as a club to force your will on others, or to get your way, or make oneself important. Just an opinion.

A number of members here and the UK forum where Jeremy is now banned have been very open and honest about their own disabilities, but unlike Jeremy they have never (to my recollection) mentioned them here before and definitely never put it in their footer. I think we should applaud them for that, they know who they are so no need to add names.

It's worth adding that one of the people Jeremy has abused in posts is himself disable after a car crash.

Ian

John51 · Dec 8, 2019

Autistic, Aspergers and CoMorbid ADHD beat that

'beat that'. Seriously? There's a competition and the most messed up member wins?

Looking for victim status. Why else use both Autistic and Aspergers? The prefix CoMorbid is to add yet more victim points.

There is someone on this forum who can beat that and it is you Jeremy.

You forgot to add Narcissistic Personality Disorder to your tag line.

Fritzthecat · Dec 8, 2019

John51 said:
Autistic, Aspergers and CoMorbid ADHD beat that

'beat that'. Seriously? There's a competition and the most messed up member wins?

Looking for victim status. Why else use both Autistic and Aspergers? The prefix CoMorbid is to add yet more victim points.

There is someone on this forum who can beat that and it is you Jeremy.

You forgot to add Narcissistic Personality Disorder to your tag line.

Rick A · Dec 8, 2019

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