Your link needs to be front and center since that is the meat of the post. Nearly missed it.
What did you end up doing?
And any photos of the process and equipment would be welcome.
It is a bit of a paradox, but your writeup is a really good thing to read for people who are camera "scanning" colour negatives, and struggling with the digital processing of the results.
It is a bit of a paradox, but your writeup is a really good thing to read for people who are camera "scanning" colour negatives, and struggling with the digital processing of the results.
I'm wondering whether this should be a Resource.
About 25-30% of the way down:
"Now, most of the RA4 paper that’s consumed today comes close to any dichroic exposure systems."
You might want to add a negative in that sentence, if I understand properly the context and intent.
Apart from this slight editorial remark, do you have nay similar views on the optimum wavelengths for B/W multigrade papers? For Foma, supposedly 2-emulsion? And for Ilford, supposedly 3-emulsion, any adverse effects from using just two wavelengths?
The paradox arises because the way to understand how to move forward digitally (with camera scanning) is to understand what older technological choices were made and why they were made.
JB Harlin discovered that conventional blue LEDs could not reach maximum contrast, and that Royal Blue is needed.
Perhaps we could ensure a short wavelength by buying specific bins.
A few years ago I got this reply from Ilford about LEDs.
And even ordinary CMY subtractive halogen colorheads work so well for RA4 printing, and are quite affordable for up to 4x5 film applications, that I don't know what the incentive is to reinvent the wheel.
additive RGB enlargers based on narrow-band dichroic filtration and complex feedback circuitry
RGB are quite tightly defined spectral points with respect to not only human vision itself, but also engineering standards, involving 450, 550, and 650nm. With continuous spectrum "black body" sources like sunlight and tungsten lighting, various types of filtration can target these rather tightly. How tight one wants to go depends on a number of factors a bit too technical to get into at the moment. But if you're significantly off-center with any of these three due to a discontinuous illumination source; and one or more of these can't be tightly remediated through additional optical filtration, it's going to affect color accuracy. I'm not saying the result will be uninteresting, but somewhat unpredictable. So sure, you can print color using extant color LED's, but won't get the same kind of hue purity and saturation as with already proven devices (along with other tight process controls too). That situation will no doubt improve over time due to the demand for it.
The second issue is sheer candlepower. It's hard to punch a big print with colored LED's. But not everyone needs that. In a few minutes I'm going out back to enlarge a rather big RA4 print from an 8x10 color neg, and it's only going to take about 12 seconds at f/16; and that's not even my most powerful colorhead. But it's actually one of my most manageable ones because I've stripped it of ALL electronics, even the power supply. It's hard-wired. The less electronics, the better. Less to go wrong. I already have two other ones with all kinds of fancy feedback circuitry, and appreciate what they can do, but not when some electrical component decides to throw a tantrum and needs to be psychoanalyzed. I also like the fact of only two quite affordable, very reliable, and readily available bulbs involved.
With multiples of LED's, there's going to be more of a risk of the specific type going obsolete due to the relative adolescence of the technology itself. They might not last like you think they will. But pioneering new applications comes with risk regardless. Just be glad you aren't testing out some new cliff-jumping bat suit instead!
RGB are quite tightly defined spectral points with respect to not only human vision itself, but also engineering standards, involving 450, 550, and 650nm.
The second issue is sheer candlepower. It's hard to punch a big print with colored LED's.
You're gonna need some really freaking bright LEDs to match dichro color head lights.
And secondly RGB LEDs used to print minilab prints are printing corrected files, whether analog scans or digital files.
- The spectral emission of the red LEDs precludes decent color reproduction.
- The power balance between red, green and blue does not match the real-world requirements of color enlarging; the red is lacking.
- The power balance is also extremely unfavorable for B&W reproduction when using variable contrast papers; the green is lacking.
- Apart from the red and green being problematic, the blue seems to be off as well.
I presume these are just hypotheses.
How did you test this?
Where are the prints?
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