Last month I was in England for a week. My wife and son had digital p&s cameras. I had a Konica FT-1 with six lenses. I shot nine rolls of slide film and about five rolls of print film. The whole time I was there the only other person I saw with a film camera was someone with a disposable camera at Windsor Castle. What about Stonehenge, the London Eye, Big Ben, the Gherkin building, a boat ride on the Thames, Picadilly Circus, Trafalgar Square, the Tower Of London, the Royal Gardens at Kew, the Tower Bridge, St. Paul's church, Winchester Cathedral, Buckingham Palace? No film cameras in sight.
For the last few years, here in Japan I've seen more and more digital cameras, mobile phone cameras, and more digital point and shoots. However, in the last two weeks, I've seen a few film SLR's about, and all, so far, are Nikons.
I just got back from a local camera shop this afternoon (I live in Japan.) Barnack Leicas are sadly no longer selling- a few camera shops have told me that. Indeed I saw a III and IIIa today for around $250- a few years ago they would have been at least $800 if not more. I saw two M3s for less than $800 (not the best condition, but working) and a beautiful M2 for around $1000. Even a year or so ago, a nice M3 was $1500 ...
A friend and I saw a Canon EOS-1(?) used for $300. Contax G series cameras are dirt cheap, as are the lenses. I got an sparking-clean Plannar 45/2 for $100
Nikon RF gear is still stupidly expensive: very clean S3s and SPs for $2000 or more. Canon RF gear can't be given away :confused:
In a few conversations with camera dealers I was told that prices have really come down recently. Now is the time to buy, I guess
Things went from reliable, reusable, and serviceable to plastic, disposable, and planned obsolescence as the norm. It's been like that almost ever since.
About the only thing that remains serviceable these days are cars, bicycles, and anything inherently mechanized. With the age of the modern semiconductor, many many things changed - and not all for the better.
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Interesting thread.
Yes, I can see the lack of new hardware becoming a problem (I second the thought above. I really wish someone like Sony would make a Film SLR, that is manual focus but took Minolta AF lenses), but as long as companies such as Ilford still make materials, there will always be an interest at the high amateur level.
They are build like a tank and must have loads of service left in them....
Otherwise known as a modern manufacturer's worse nightmare.
I think the "resurgence" discussed here is know in other circles as a "dead cat bounce".
I think the "resurgence" discussed here is known in other circles as a "dead cat bounce".
I'm not sure if I already said this (9 pages of thread is a lot). I did do some night photography, long exposures of 20mins plus, all because digital cameras cannot do it, at least the Sony / Minolta's cannot, and I assume the same with Nikons; they get a pink haze in one corner of the image form, and I have no idea why.
You might, however, see new analog film cameras offered after dedicated digital film cameras are no longer available.
Encroachment by smart phones, a transition to frame capture from video and a decline in disposable income around the world could really catalyze that process, too.
Why am I not surprised to see you enjoying that comment? I've brought it up before, but I really don't get you or your motivations. You seem to enjoy this while the rest of us just want to shoot analog and not have any issues doing it.
That's the sensor heating up.
On one of the other photography boards there is a recent posting wherein the OP is touting the quality of the camera in his new iPhone. He posted several example pictures. While I will admit they are better than your average cellular camera pictures they are worse than one would get from even the cheapest P&S digital. Yet the thread is full of ohs and ahs over the pictures with nary a negative comment or even an observation, save mine, of the low relative quality of the pictures. It's difficult to express an observation on most boards these days without starting a flame war. People ask for opinions then get all bent when some don't agree with theirs. They don't really want opinion, they want a confirmation.
http://www.red.com/cameras/ I thought that maybe there would always be a place for film until i read this.When this technology seeps down to the mass market i just can't see any purpose in maintaing a film based system in my workplace.... since christmas i've been working with a full frame 24mpl dslr and i have been printing with an epson 4880. sorry guys,for me 35mm is finished. I still use mf but mainly for personal projects, To be quite honest, i really don't need to have a film camera around at all. Oh, rangefinders are the exception .....wouldn't part with mine for anything....grin
I don't believe it is a 'debate' of film versus digital.
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