Results (AP.41) of a process with Valvia.

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Hello and greetings to all ,,
First, I extend my thanks and great gratitude to the respected Ukrainian colleague, Reverend Vova, son of the esteemed Yuri ... who was the original idea bomber. He was the one who brought the official version of the old Russian books and references ... and translated them into English,
Second: I would like to thank my esteemed professor and teacher with great gratitude, engineer: Rodolfo the Austrian ... who made some calculations in order to make some minor adjustments to the process ,,, and sent a number of Valvia rolls and test strips from Austria to Egypt. To support those experiences ,, God bless him ,,
Third: I extend my thanks and a lot of gratitude and appreciation to the spirit of the late great chemistry scientist (Ron Maori), for it is he who suggested replacing (T32) with the same amount of (CD4)
And his suggestion was very distinctive.
Why (AP41)?
Because we are poor people, we have many enemies ,,
Great Enemy (phendion)
Evil Enemy (Citrasink Acid)
Other Malicious Demons (ATMP), and the like.
These evil elements stand firmly in the face of any Egyptian man who dreams of preparing chemistry (E6) - so the best solution is to resort to unconventional solutions, and my dear colleague Mr. Vova suggested that we can rely on a somewhat old formula, but its results will be great. And this is what happened.
- The formula of the operation is published and available ,, and if one of you wants the formula, we can re-publish it, so there is nothing wrong with that.
- But I just want to know your opinion on these results ,,, and after that we can talk about the details of the formula and we can conduct a discussion on those matters ,,,


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What about the images with big black spots? Are they related to the process or to the film?

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The other images look really nice, very good colors and contrast. Perhaps you can summarize again the process for newcomers.

Congratulations for your sucess!
 
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Hello and greetings to all ,,
First, I extend my thanks and great gratitude to the respected Ukrainian colleague, Reverend Vova, son of the esteemed Yuri ... who was the original idea bomber. He was the one who brought the official version of the old Russian books and references ... and translated them into English,
Second: I would like to thank my esteemed professor and teacher with great gratitude, engineer: Rodolfo the Austrian ... who made some calculations in order to make some minor adjustments to the process ,,, and sent a number of Valvia rolls and test strips from Austria to Egypt. To support those experiences ,, God bless him ,,
Third: I extend my thanks and a lot of gratitude and appreciation to the spirit of the late great chemistry scientist (Ron Maori), for it is he who suggested replacing (T32) with the same amount of (CD4)
And his suggestion was very distinctive.
Why (AP41)?
Because we are poor people, we have many enemies ,,
Great Enemy (phendion)
Evil Enemy (Citrasink Acid)
Other Malicious Demons (ATMP), and the like.
These evil elements stand firmly in the face of any Egyptian man who dreams of preparing chemistry (E6) - so the best solution is to resort to unconventional solutions, and my dear colleague Mr. Vova suggested that we can rely on a somewhat old formula, but its results will be great. And this is what happened.
- The formula of the operation is published and available ,, and if one of you wants the formula, we can re-publish it, so there is nothing wrong with that.
- But I just want to know your opinion on these results ,,, and after that we can talk about the details of the formula and we can conduct a discussion on those matters ,,,


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Thank you Mohmad for your posting and samples.

Am I reading this correctly?
You used process AP41 which was the old Agfa transparency process. (old as in the predecessor of Agfa AP44/E6)
Is that correct?
 
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Thank you Mohmad for your posting and samples.

Am I reading this correctly?
You used process AP41 which was the old Agfa transparency process. (old as in the predecessor of Agfa AP44/E6)
Is that correct?
Yes dear friend ,,
The operation (AP44) ,, is a secret operation and nobody has access to the actual version of that method.
So I used the old process (AP41) - - the main difference between the two processes is the temperature, and of course the development time.
- There is another very important difference, which is the (re-exposure) step - in the old process this step is done using a tungsten lamp, but thanks to the help of some colleagues here in the forum I was able to obtain the formula of a patent re-exposure solution from Fuji company, he needed To an isolation element from the expensive evil elements, but I replaced it with the element (Calgon) and it was used successfully.
- The essential point here and it is really a malicious point ,, After using the re-exposure solution, the film should not be washed, rather it is necessary to go directly to the next step which is a developed color directly without washing the film ,, I can say that this essential point is one of the most important reasons for the success of the experiment Whereas, the residue of the re-exposure solution remaining on the emulsion surface will still function while the color developer is working.
- The secret process (AP44) depends on a temperature of 38 degrees just like the process (E6) - but the old process (AP41) works according to a temperature (20 degrees Celsius) for old films, and (24 degrees Celsius) for fresh films, when you use the temperature ( 20 Celsius) so the development time is 22 minutes, and when the temperature is used (24 Celsius), the development time is 14 minutes.
- The last modification in the process sequence, that the new process (AP44) uses a pre-bleaching solution. While the old process does not use this solution ,, I used a solution that was authored by our dear colleague, Austrian engineer Rodolfo, and it is a very simple solution. Comfortably tasks. (This solution they call the conditioning solution.)
- Conclusion ,,
We can say that we have devised the modified (AP41) process.
We have done a simulation of the operation (AP44), which is an unknown and secret operation until today, and that simulation was done by relying on the old process (AP41), and thank God, the plan succeeded.
 

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Well done Mohmad.

It appears you have rejuvenated an obsolete process and with very good results.

I think there may be a niche commercial market for this type of film processing. I think your samples have an Agfa CT18 retro appearance.
 
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Yes, my dear friend, the (stabilizer) solution was old ,, and the situation was corrected and the film was re-washed with a new solution and the black spots disappeared,
God bless you

Fantastic! And congratulations for successfully engineering a solution to the problem of developing color slide films in your circumstances.
 
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Well done Mohmad.

It appears you have rejuvenated an obsolete process and with very good results.

I think there may be a niche commercial market for this type of film processing. I think your samples have an Agfa CT18 retro appearance.
God bless you, thank you for your kind words ..
A: Yes, I belong to a people who are very poor in terms of financial resources. We cannot buy those very expensive items that the official E6 process requires.
I belong to a broken, wounded, enslaved people whose rights are usurped and humanized daily by the ruling authority.
- But we never did not give up ,, we still have more than money, we still possess the ability to dream and the ability to imagination and hope.
If you want the modified or original version, you can ask for it. I am at your disposal.
 
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This looks fantastic. I love seeing people pushing the boundaries. Well done.
God bless you, thank you for your kind words ..
I am a big fan of your videos and I learn a lot from them, especially the experience of converting (C41) into positive transparency.
God bless you. Greetings to you from the bottom of my heart.
 
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Fantastic! And congratulations for successfully engineering a solution to the problem of developing color slide films in your circumstances.
God bless you, thank you for your kind words ..
I thank you for your continued support (me personally) and the Egyptian analog photographers community. Greetings to you from the bottom of my heart.
 
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