... so would you mind if you went out for dinner and a commercial photo shoot was happening in the restaurant?pentaxuser
... so would you mind if you went out for dinner and a commercial photo shoot was happening in the restaurant?
I would. When I pay for dinner in a restaurant I want to be able to relax and enjoy.... without hubbub. My expectation is that the restaurant stays focused on ensuring a great guest experience rather than “time sharing” between paying patrons and their own advertising endeavors. I’d emulate the Australians and go elsewhere.
To me the issue here is one of professionalism. A photo session in a restaurant for commercial use must be done professionally.
... so would you mind if you went out for dinner and a commercial photo shoot was happening in the restaurant?
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As I hinted at but perhaps did not make clear enough, it would depend entirely on how much such a "shoot" impinged on my experience as a customer. I have a feeling that what is planned is likely to be much less intrusive than some here imagine but of course I could be wrong.
We'd need to ask a set of fairly specific questions of the OP to find out but he hasn't been seen since about 15 mins after his first and only post and I doubt we will see him/her again. I imagine ( there's me speculating again) that he realised that a forum may not be the best place from which to gather what he needed on this subject and given he is a DSLR shooter that may be the end of his relationship with Photrio
You and I, Brian, may in fact react in the same way in said restaurant depending on what we experienced. My problem is that I have no real idea how the whole business of the "shoot" will pan out
It wasn't black or white enough as the OP described the situation for me to be more specific in my responses. Most things in life are more nuanced than some may assume will be the case.
pentaxuser
Many years ago I took my brother and his wife to a nice restaurant for dinner, to celebrate their cross country to visit me. A photographer asked to take photographs and sell them to us. I as the host politely said no. The photographer got huffy and said that maybe the other two would want the photographs. When they said no, the photographer dropped some unpleasant words and then left. So the OP should stay away from me.
I find the phrasing of this very disturbing, given the number of mass shootings we've witnessed in the past year.
In the USA, when you suggest you are going to "shoot customers", be prepared for the police to arrive at your door. They won't arrest you, they'll just shoot you... dead.Hi All,
I have a question about shooting customers in a restaurant situation - where I've asked them and they've given permission.
I've been asked to shoot a restaurant in London, and will be taking location shots, food shots, and also some shots while its busy with customers.
The images will be for their website, gallery and some for social.
We’ll put notices up on the day, and its agreed that I’ll politely ask everyone beforehand and get verbal consent to take a picture. No one will be photographed without being asked, and being ok with it.
Of course anyone who doesn’t want to, won’t be photographed.
What we want to avoid is asking all the patrons to sign release forms. We feel that as its for gallery / social use (not a big advertising campaign), that asking politely is respectful, but going up to them with forms will be a bit intrusive on their experience.
My question is this:
I know that release forms are good practicem but... is it reasonable to expect that in the worst case scenario, if someone objects to being in an online gallery, all we do is take the image down when requested? We will have asked them on the day, and put signs up.
Although I want to avoid walking round with release forms for everyone, I will do if needed.
Does anyone have experience of shooting restaurants, bars or similar type places such as this?
Thanks
Eh???????Yeah, here in America (the land of too many lawyers (f*& them), you need written permission to take anyone's picture.
Are you Canadian?Eh???????
Hi All,
Firstly, on language - as has been mentioned - its common at least in the UK, to talk of photo shoots, film shoots, being on a shoot, shooting from a particular angle. I felt like this was fairly safe to use this terminology in a photographhy specific forum. .
On the legal side of things, I'm going to look at taking it to a pro in the UK, as this is specific to the laws in this country. The question was more if anyone had direct experience with this, and could let me know if they'd used signs / release forms etc. It seems that a lot of you would at the very least do this, and probably use models / friends during restaurant downtime.
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Are you Canadian?
Even in the States, I don't think that is correct.
Although it is at least prudent if you intend to make commercial use of those photos.
That flows from the very specific and additional privacy protections that were enacted to supplement the Quebec Civil Code, and are specific to Quebec.Ever since the Aubry judgment in 1998, it is illegal in Quebec to publish any photo of someone without consent, unless the photo is of public interest.
That flows from the very specific and additional privacy protections that were enacted to supplement the Quebec Civil Code, and are specific to Quebec.
And even then, that is both limited to the publishing of photos, and is even then not a total ban - news photos are one example of permitted use.
The comment responded to was about the taking of photos, not their commercial or near commercial use.
I thought it was clear from the start that you were talking about the U.K. where in any context relating to photography the word shoot, shooting etc does not cause us to feel concerned. I had always thought of the word shooting in the photographic context as having U.S. origins which we in the U.K. had simply emulated.
The best and most neutral word is the old British word "take" rather than "shoot" Once upon a time everyone in the U.K. "took photos or pictures "
I have now resolved to use the word "take" in future. It engenders a warm feeling of nostalgia for the seaside, deckchairs, Blackpool rock and a knotted hankie on old Uncle Harry's head. Short of imminent starvation I will not "soup" my film either
pentaxuser
"Take an image" or "to photograph" are the terms I try to use with non-photo people now.
I have done restaurant shoots and have always used models.
I thought it was clear from the start that you were talking about the U.K. where in any context relating to photography the word shoot, shooting etc does not cause us to feel concerned. I had always thought of the word shooting in the photographic context as having U.S. origins which we in the U.K. had simply emulated.
The best and most neutral word is the old British word "take" rather than "shoot" Once upon a time everyone in the U.K. "took photos or pictures "
I have now resolved to use the word "take" in future. It engenders a warm feeling of nostalgia for the seaside, deckchairs, Blackpool rock and a knotted hankie on old Uncle Harry's head. Short of imminent starvation I will not "soup" my film either
pentaxuser
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