Renissance in 5x7 format?

climbabout · May 24, 2006

Dave Wooten said:
Tim posting some photos of the project would be great !

Ok - I'll take some tonight - keep in mind this was done about 15 or 20 years ago with an aristo head that may or may not be still available, but the general design and principle may still be of use with todays available heads.
Climbabout
Tim Jones

climbabout · May 24, 2006

Dave Wooten said:
Tim posting some photos of the project would be great !

Here's the pics I promised
Tim

Curt · May 24, 2006

I think the Renaissance has been underway for some time and we are in the golden age of 5x7. How do you reinforce that upon the film manufacturers so they will continue to produce 5x7 film so we don't have to resort to cutting down film. Before I got the Efke 25 in 2x3 I had great success in cutting down 2x3 from a larger format sheet. It worked so well I had no scratches or miscuts. It can be done but it's a step we shouldn't have to go through.
Curt

Dave Wooten · May 24, 2006

Thanks a lot Tim, good job, and welcome to APUG!

Dave in Vegas

Nick Zentena · May 25, 2006

The same way you do paper basically. I only do B&W in paper drums but it's not complicated. Can be slow considering the number of sheets that fit a drum.

The BIG expert drums that hold ULF are really print drums aren't they?

Ole · May 25, 2006

Nick Zentena said:
The same way you do paper basically. I only do B&W in paper drums but it's not complicated. Can be slow considering the number of sheets that fit a drum.

Exactly. Since I shoot very little colour, i have no problem with the limited number of films in a print drum. I have two print drums; each one takes four sheets. Add a film tank for 4x5", and that's quite enough for me. BW sometimes goes in the tanks too, sometimes in trays. Tray developing E6 is just a little too exacting fo rme...

jimgalli · May 25, 2006

WTB 13 X 18 Holders

5X7's are under-represented at the Galli stockade just now. Only 2 unless you count reducing backs which I do not. A while ago I bought about 10 large boxes of 13X18 E. European film and put it in the freezer. I've been looking for 13X18 film holders ever since. Modern ones please. Anyone have some extras to sell? I have enough 5 inch film in the freezer to make bad negatives until about 400 years into the millenial reign if the freezer keeps running. Or if hell freezes over the film should be fine too.

wfwhitaker · May 25, 2006

Aw, c'mon! Every format's in a renaissance at the Galli stockade....

Roger Hicks · May 26, 2006

Dear Jim,

I have lots of 13x18 holders (probably 20 Linhof and several Fidelity) but the shipping from France might not be a good idea. How many do you need?

Cheers,

Roger

Curt · May 26, 2006

Doesn't look like there is much interest in 7x5 does it?

mcconkeyp · May 26, 2006

Curt said:
Doesn't look like there is much interest in 7x5 does it?

Not much - I've just given up 35mm and medium format for a 7x5 Gandolfi Variant!

I'd hate to start an argument but I reckon that it is starting to get difficult to argue in favour of 35mm when digital cameras as good as the D200 are available. I've even heard (from the blue-sky department of a well known film manufacturer) that in the near future, most snapshots will be captured by combining several adjacent frames from video cameras. Combining image data from adjacent frames lets you increase the image resolution, whilst video gives you the chance to pick the perfect frame. I'm not sure that I agree with this but, hey!

I think that when most non-professionals (enthusiasts, artists, etc) leaving the smaller formats compare 5x4, 7x5 and 10x8, they see 5x4 as being easy to get into (with all the support and kit for pros) and they see 10x8 as being great for contacts, but maybe just a bit too big (I was shocked by the size of 10x8 Deardorff, coming from 35mm).

7x5 sits perfectly in the middle once you have realised that you can take advantage of the 5x4 world for colour (with a reducing back) but you still get the opportunity to make fairly big contacts in B&W.

Having said all that I hope I don't find that I've made a big mistake and should have bought a banquet camera instead!

Cheers,

Paul.

Capocheny · May 26, 2006

Paul,

I couldn't agree with you more... in many ways, I wish I would have jumped right into 5x7 rather than 4x5. But, learning on 4x5 is a lot less expensive than learning on a 5x7.

The aspect ratio of a 5x7 is so nice to use as compared to 4x5... I do find myself cropping my 4x5 image more often than I care to. But, that's just the nature of the beast.

As for the size and weight of an 8x10 Dorff... I don't know just HOW large they are but I will soon! I've just bought one!

Cheers

climbabout · May 26, 2006

Capocheny said:
Paul,

I couldn't agree with you more... in many ways, I wish I would have jumped right into 5x7 rather than 4x5. But, learning on 4x5 is a lot less expensive than learning on a 5x7.

The aspect ratio of a 5x7 is so nice to use as compared to 4x5... I do find myself cropping my 4x5 image more often than I care to. But, that's just the nature of the beast.

As for the size and weight of an 8x10 Dorff... I don't know just HOW large they are but I will soon! I've just bought one!

Cheers

I recently(last fall) upgraded from a 5x7 dorf to an 8x10, (which also has a 5x7 reducing back - so I have the best of both worlds)I it's my opinion that the 8x10 dorf is a quite manageable package. I think it weighs about 15lbs and I was able to fit it in the same backpack that I had the 5x7 in. I have a very compact set of lenses- a 159mm wolly which just covers 8x10, a 240 fuji compact, a 450 fuji compact, and the only big beast I have is a 14" artar, so I have in approximate size 6,10,14 and 18" covered and the whole outfit with 6 holders and my pentax meter weighs about 30lbs - not bad for a full 8x10/5x7 outfit.
Climbabout
Tim Jones

Jeremy · May 26, 2006

Just made 2 lensboards for the 5x7 yesterday so I could go photograph this weekend... ahhh, a weekend of photographic bliss

Curt · May 26, 2006

Paul you made the correct decision, and a Variant to boot, wow that's going to be a nice setup. I think 5x7 or 7x5 is a fantastic format. It seems perfect and I have everything from 35mm to 11x14. I prefer the 5x7 for control and weight. I carry it on airlines and pack it down to the beach. The lenses are easier on the budget too.

Regards,
Curt

sanking · May 27, 2006

Emile de Leon said:
I use a Anba Ikeda 5x7. At 3.8 lbs it really is a no-brainer for the most portable camera with the biggest neg. Emile/www.deleon-ulf.com

I have a similar camera, a Nagaoka 5X7 field camera. As far as I am concerned it is about the most perfect all-around 5X7 field camera ever made for general landscape photography when low weight and compact design are the major criteria. The Nagaoka is about 7.5"X7.5"X2.75", very light in weight at less than 3 lbs, and lyet still has a fair amount of movements (rear swing and tilt, front swing and tilt, and front rise and fall), and it will handle lenses of normal type up to 300mm focal length and telefoto lenses up to at least 600mm. And gold-plated metal and beautiful.

I would not trade my Nagaoka 5X7 even up for any other 5X7 I have ever seen or read about. Not for an Ebony, not for a Canham, not for a Deardorff, not for a Shen-Hao, not for a Gandolfini. Some of these cameras are clearly superior in some aspects, but for my purposes the combination of compact design, very light weight, and movements makes the Nagaoka unbeatable.

Sandy

Capocheny · May 27, 2006

Hi Tom,

Sounds like quite a nice package... I can hardly wait to get my Dorff 8x10.

Initially, I thought about getting a 5x7 reducing back for it. But then, I decided if I'm going to lug around the 8x10... I'll shoot 8x10!

When I want to shoot 5x7/4x5... I'll use my Dorff 5x7/4x5 Special. A 4x5 reducing back came with the 5x7.

As for lenses, I have a Nikkor 240 f5.6 (Copal 3) and a 360 Symmar f6.8 (Copal 3) for the 8x10 at the moment. I'll be looking for smaller and lighter in the next short while.

Decisions, decisions, decisions!

Cheers

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