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Renissance in 5x7 format?

I went to Adorama last week to buy some 5x7 Tri-x and they had a good number of boxes with an expiration date in late 2008 - a good sign. I use my 5x7 with 3 lenses, a 150, 300, and 600 and it really covers all the bases. It would be nice if there were a larger selection of color film, though...

Take care,
Tom
 
my first experiences with 5x7 format were as a printer/lab guy for a portrait photographer trained in the 30s. she had an 8x10 camera ( studio ansco ) reduced down for 5x7. i hadn't used anything bigger than 4x5 and seeing and printing 5x7s ( she didn't contact print unless they were proofs ) really turned me into a believer. split 5x7s for regular bread and butter sittings, and full 5x7 for the karsh-seque rembrant lighting + formal portraits she was famous for. down the road a bit when i was building myown inventory of equipment, i was talking to a "living room / show" dealer i sometimes buy equipment from. we were talking about what i was up to ( doing streetscape documentations, habs work and portraits ) and as i was buying my 210/370 symmar --- he and his wife said " do we have a camera for you! it is a 5x7, and most of your 4x5 lenses will fit, yadda yadda yadda ... and the next thing i know 5 minutes later i am 150$ poorer ( not counting the symmar ) and a 5x7 camera richer.

when i bought it, i kind of had reservations, but now, it is one of those formats i can't live without.

john
 
Another vote for 5x7's size & proportion. My second large format camera (1976) was an ugly gray tailboard, built like a rock, bought when a studio closed in Dallas. I removed the gray paint and found a glorious cherry wood underneath. Indestructible and a large lens board as well.
Once I moved into the Rocky Mountain west, landscapes became the calling and it was not the most appropriate camera. For once I was in the right place at the right time and a mint Korona 5x7 with the extension rail showed up in a local shop window at $125, along with 3 holders, and a 150 Tessar. Who was I to resist? It's only real failing was the small lens board.
I should never have parted with that camera - but absolutely love the Canham 5x7 that replaced it. It has a 4x5 reducing back and a 4x10 back & bellows. Precise, stable, long bellows draw. They'll have to pry it out of my fingers after rigor mortis sets in...
I believe 5x7 would have been much more popular with photographers had either St. Edward or St. Ansel used it... but that keeps the prices down for independent thinkers.
 
Mark down another fan of 5x7. As a matter of fact, I'm going to go home this evening and load up my holders so I can do some night shooting.
 
Hi Roger, glad to see you here. I've been enjoying your articles in the on-line "Large Format Journal" -- largely because your first article featured the 5x7 format. Validated all of my own reasons for getting a 5x7 Eastman 2D a couple of years back.

Nathan

 
David A. Goldfarb said:
The 5x7" Press Graflex and Graflex Home Portrait cameras are the largest practical SLR's around that aren't extreme rarities, so that's another attraction.

Haargh! I wish I hadn't seen that camera. I want negs big enough to contact print from a camera I can hand hold, and there aren't a lot of choices. Anyway, if I was getting into large format, I'd skip 4x5 and go for 5x7 to get contact-print size negs.
 


there is a 5x7 press graflex right now on FLEABay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Graflex-Press-G...621601051QQcategoryZ15247QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

wish i had the umph to get another camera, but seems that i am all camera'd out these days ...
 
I use a Anba Ikeda 5x7. At 3.8 lbs it really is a no-brainer for the most portable camera with the biggest neg. Emile/www.deleon-ulf.com
 
jnanian said:
there is a 5x7 press graflex right now on FLEABay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Graflex-Press-G...621601051QQcategoryZ15247QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

wish i had the umph to get another camera, but seems that i am all camera'd out these days ...

Looks like a good one, and has a hard-to-find bag mag, but note that it's a plate mag, so it will need film sheaths if it doesn't already have them. I have a plate mag like this one with film sheaths and a later film mag. The film mag is smaller and lighter.
 
jnanian said:
wish i had the umph to get another camera, but seems that i am all camera'd out these days ...

Are such things possible?
 

and the seller is igor's, he is a good-egg (bought a lens from him a while back) ..
 
yeah for 5x7

I might as well post my .02 worth - I shot with a 5x7 Deardorff for many years and love the format - I have a modified omega 4x5 enlarger that I made into a 5x7 with an aristo cold light. Recently I got bit by the contact bug and wanted to move up to 8x10, so I sold the 5x7 Deardorff for an 8x10, but I made sure I got a 5x7 back so I could still enlarge if I wanted to or contact print the 5x7's. I enjoy the 8x10 aspect as well, having shot hasselblad for many years, so I now have the best of both worlds, but the 5x7 aspect is still my favorite.
Climbabout
 
Like Q.T. Luong and several others here, I'm starting to think that the Canham Traditional or a (new?) Deardorff with both 5x7 and 4x5 backs is about as good as it gets.
 
BradS said:
Like Q.T. Luong and several others here, I'm starting to think that the Canham Traditional or a (new?) Deardorff with both 5x7 and 4x5 backs is about as good as it gets.


Well, not so fast. My Ebony SV57U is about as good as any camera I have ever owned, and it comes with a 4x5 back included.

I do love the format and have learned film workarounds (buying in Japan and/or cutting 8x10 sheets) for both b&w and color, so I think it will continue to be my most-used format.
 

Oh, yes. Of course...how could I forget Ebony? I have an Ebony RW-45...and love it! The Ebonies are a tad bit on the spendy side of the spectrum though
 

There are still a number of labs that can handle 5x7. One of the is Praus, one of the sponsors of APUG. If you want to go through the agony of tray development or tube development for E6 I suppose you could but I use a Jobo ATL 2300 and expert drums, yes a bit pricy but the volume of film I process had it paid for quickly. No tto mention you can often find the ATL2xxx series machines priced about the same as the CPP's simply because they are large and are coming from labs surplusing them. For that matter, the expert drums work fine AFAIK on the CPP/CPA as well as the ATL's.

As far as the enlarging goes, if you track back you will note that there are lots of 5x7 enlargers available at very reasonable prices (assuming you have the space for the column). Beyond that, if you are thinking color, you should take a look at prints from a scanned 5x7 transparency or color negative. No digital v. wet arguments here .... just a note that it is another way and one that is worth looking at for color especially. While I still do a lot of wet processing and enlarging of 5x7 black and white negatives (in fact am even searching for a new 5x7 or 8x10 enlarger now) I went to digital for color several years ago based on a combination of cost and quality.

Finally, Polaroid. While there is no 5x7 Polaroid film available there is a neat conversion sheath available from Midwest Photo. It is a 5x7 size holder into which you slide your Polaroid holder. They have them made in Italy. Of course you can achieve the same result by switching from a 5x7 to 4x5 back but on some cameras that will result in focus shift .... plus, the sheath is a faster more elegant and less expensive solution, IIRC they run 50-75.

Like many others I am a devotee of the Canham Traditional 57/45. Mine has been chugging along now for 10+years. I love that it has the looks of a fine wood field but is really a metal camaera inside a wooden box.
 
I develop my colour films in a print drum on a CPE2. No problem at all.

Finding a good 5x7" enlarger is easy, as easy as finding a good 4x5" enlarger. Sometimes they're cheaper too, due to the size perhaps? I know that I need no better enlarger than my Durst 138S for any size film up to 13x18cm!
 


I've contacted Calypso and they say they can do it and do it at a reasonable price.
 
Climbabout - There have been many posts regarding the Beseler 4X5 to 8X10 conversion. Yours is the first I recall on converting a 4X5 enlarger to 5X7. Could you give details? Negative carrier? Does the Aristo cold light clear the column on your Omega okay? Does the Aristo give even illumination across 5X7?
 
Ditto on the Beseler enlarger conversion: if I could convert my Beseler 45 to a 5x7 enlarger I'd probably never shoot 4x5 again. If there's a way to do that, I'd love to know about it.

mjs
 
4x5 to 5x7 enlarger conversion

I converted the omega from 4x5 color by removing the color head and building a box out of wood about 5" deep and slightly larger than the aristo head - I believe the aristo head is actually a 7x9" light source. This box mounts where the old color head once was. The reason for the box was to move the light source and negative farther away from the lens and to allow the 5x7 projection to pass through the smaller opening where the 4x5 image once passed from the color head - think of this as sort of a fixed bellows. On top of this box I built a hinged frame to hold the head and the negative carrier is homemade as well. Nothing more than a frosted piece of glass which has a clear piece of glass hinged to it with photographic tape the carrier is masked off to 5x7 with the same black photographic tape - the boxe has a rabbeted channel under the hinged section that this carrier slides into. The column on the enlarge is slated away from the wall so there are no clearance issues. It's a very simple setup which has served me for over 20 years.
 

As a follow up - if you folks are interested I can post some pics tommorow I'll check back on this thread or you can pm me.
Climbabout
Tim Jones
 
climbabout said:
As a follow up - if you folks are interested I can post some pics tommorow I'll check back on this thread or you can pm me.
Climbabout
Tim Jones


Tim posting some photos of the project would be great !