Lith prints bad? Hardly, I lith print myself.
I said nothing about Junku prints. I was commenting on your broad generalizations about the relative qualities of inkjet and wet prints.
Lith prints bad? Hardly, I lith print myself.Well, are you saying what lith prints are bad prints? Just say it.
I said nothing about Junku prints. I was commenting on your broad generalizations about the relative qualities of inkjet and wet prints.You already admitted Junku prints are bad, aren't you?
Lith prints bad? Hardly, I lith print myself.
I said nothing about Junku prints. I was commenting on your broad generalizations about the relative qualities of inkjet and wet prints.
And your comment that "the king is naked"?The only person who started to generalize here is you with bad darkroom prints broad assumptions.
But here are mediocre inkjet prints as well.
Including piezo-shmezo ones.
So back on topic... I’m struggling to find the “nostalgic tones”.Too bad this thread isn't about photography anymore.
So back on topic... I’m struggling to find the “nostalgic tones”.
Brooks Jensen (publishes Lenswork) has shared many times stories like yours, where expertly made digital prints on the wall have proven impossible to tell from darkroom ones when shared with experts side by side.
Let's see what happens to digital prints in 10 or 15 years. Are collectors going to get burned?ditto
i wish the OP with explain a little better, even going to Junku Nishimura's website, im not really sure what nostalgic means
other than maybe contrasty and grainyish ( under exposed over developed ? ) and printed with a contrast filter for grit
split processing ? selenium and sepia split toning ?
IDK
Ko.Fe .. im note really sure what king or emperor you are talking about,
they usually don't wear any clothes, and usually people that try to prove points that put clothes on him/ her ..
human nature for people to believe what they want to believe and they construct their own reality around that
.. YMMV
yup ..
Thanks for introducing me to Junku. I like the work he did for Lensculture and his images on Flickr are cool and have that Japanese noir look.
You didn't mention how you wanted to make this type of image - are you planning to expose film and then scan, or will you use the darkroom? Is your goal to make this type of image on paper or forego paper and share digitally online?
why not ask Junku Nishimura yourself ? he's on flickr..
you can go to his website and download his darkroom /film processing manual
maybe there are hints in there ? my guess is they are negative scans ( in color )
and he is good at burning and dodging and using the contrast slider .. or they are just stright prints
using ansco 130 developer or something else that gives tonality and contrast in the print..
but only he knows what he does .. ( have you read the interviews in lens culture &c ? )
Let's see what happens to digital prints in 10 or 15 years. Are collectors going to get burned?
Jury is still out
JUST FOUND HIS WEBSITE. IT HAS HIS RECIPE!!!!
Thank you for pointing the way. I was so stupid.
JUST FOUND HIS WEBSITE. IT HAS HIS RECIPE!!!!
Thank you for pointing the way. I was so stupid.
He was very generous to share his approach. Nice! My favorite advice: "leaving street，take shower and clean your body & soul. don’t develop drunk!"
http://www.junkunishimura.com/img/workshoptext.pdf
The PDF shows using Fuji Super Prodol. Is that available in the US, or is there any similar developer?
formula already backwards engineered/figured out by a photo chemistNow how about a long thread on intelligently guessing the formula of Fuji Super Prodol?
If by 'figured out' you mean qualifications like 'probably', 'likely' and 'possibly' when discussing the ingredients, then yes...formular already figured out by a photo chemist
If by 'figured out' you mean qualifications like 'probably', 'likely' and 'possibly' when discussing the ingredients, then yes...
In other words: it's not a published formula, it could be reverse engineered as a rough approximation, but it would be costly and likely technically illegal to do it accurately.
The more sensible answer would of course be to not fuss too much about the specifics of the developer used. It's a quite common, no-thrills PQ incarnation without any outrageously special or magical influence on the images developed with it.
Yes, but Photography is both an art and a science. It is important to gain some understanding of the mechanics of the process to allow us to bend the process to suit our artistic whims.yes an educated guess type thing.
its too bad people don't realize the developer, lens
paper camera are just fluff and have very little to do
with the photography.
oh well ...
Yes, but Photography is both an art and a science. It is important to gain some understanding of the mechanics of the process to allow us to bend the process to suit our artistic whims.
maybe, but ... not really .... i guess as long as you are enjoying yourself
So you don't bother with exposure? After all, figuring out the way to get the correct amount of light on the film is part of the science. Just point the camera a press the button?
To an extent, yes. However, if someone comes along saying something like "I really like photographyer-such-and-so's work, I want to make something like that", then I would warn them not to waste too much time mulling over what developer they use. It's easy to get lost in the science and forget about the art.Yes, but Photography is both an art and a science. It is important to gain some understanding of the mechanics of the process to allow us to bend the process to suit our artistic whims.
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