random hasselblad questions...

thelovecollective · Sep 23, 2006

i'm new to the hasselblad V system..
i've borrowing a 503CW and 2-220 and 1-120 backs..

my questions are:

can i shoot 120 film in the 220 backs?
are the inserts the same for both backs?
is it possible to interchange them mixing up serial numbers?

if i get a CW winder, can i still use a strap for the camera?

is there such thing as a bayonet to screwmount adapter?

which is the best metered prism which can be used with a polaroid back?

wfe · Sep 23, 2006

I have a 503CW and don't use the winder very much. I suppose it depends on what you are shooting. It is big and heavy and is probably best hand held or on a tripod.

I have never used 220 backs and as I understand things 220 film is hard to get. Don't know if 120 works in the 220 backs.

The inserts are matched with serial numbers and should not be mixed.

There is a bayonet to screw mount adaptor which is the way to go to keep filter costs down.

I would suggest using a hand held spot meter. Agin the prisms are heavy and bulky. I have one but only because I have trouble focusing otherwise.

Good luck!!!

Regards,
Bill

thelovecollective said:
i'm new to the hasselblad V system..
i've borrowing a 503CW and 2-220 and 1-120 backs..

my questions are:

can i shoot 120 film in the 220 backs?
are the inserts the same for both backs?
is it possible to interchange them mixing up serial numbers?

if i get a CW winder, can i still use a strap for the camera?

is there such thing as a bayonet to screwmount adapter?

which is the best metered prism which can be used with a polaroid back?

david b · Sep 23, 2006

220 does not work in 120 backs and 120 does not work in 220 backs.

Do not mix up the inserts.

yes you can still use a strap with the camera with the winder on it. it will be very heavy.

raucousimages · Sep 23, 2006

There is no screwmount adapter. Hassy lenses are bayonet. What lens do you want to put on a Hassy body and why not use hassy lenses?

wfe · Sep 23, 2006

raucousimages said:
There is no screwmount adapter. Hassy lenses are bayonet. What lens do you want to put on a Hassy body and why not use hassy lenses?

My comment was with regard to filters not lenses.

Regards,
Bill

Phillip P. Dimor · Sep 23, 2006

I use 220 in the 120 backs.. I've no sharpness issues or otherwise.
One time though, I did manage to tear the film in half inside of the film holder. Once you get to 12 exposures, you have to open the back and close it to reset the counter. If you have a darkbag this works out alright.

If you are going to be using 220 film on a regular basis, by all means go out and get a used 220 back. They are pretty cheap. I choose to use my 120 back because I rarely use 220 film and found a large supply of outdated portra 160nc pro packs for nearly free.

I also agree with the bayonet to screw filter adapter. I've got one and it's definitely handy.

I only have experience with the Kiev meter. Optically it is excellent.
Mechanically, the meter knob is weak. There is a soft screw which holds the knob assembly together. I torqued it right off after the third day of using it. I was able to find a replacement screw but it is still kind of 'off'.
The meter however was usually right on or real close to it. You can use this with the polaroid backs i'm pretty sure.

raucousimages · Sep 23, 2006

Sorry. Yes, adaptors are available for screw and drop-in filters from several sources.

jamie · Sep 23, 2006

It is possible to use 120 film in A24 backs but you will only get 11 exposures. I think there should be no problem interchanging inserts of backs with different serials as long as the both are the same model, e.g. two A12 backs. I have no idea if it's possible to swap inserts of different models but I think it's not a good idea.

mgb74 · Sep 23, 2006

wfe said:
My comment was with regard to filters not lenses.

Regards,
Bill

Note that there were at least 2 common sizes for H'blad filters: Bayonet-50 (a.k.a. Bay 50, B50) which were used on the earlier lenses and Bayonet-60 (a.k.a. Bay 60, B60) which were used on later lenses. Make sure the filter adapter you obtain fits your lens. Also be careful about vignetting, keeping in mind that you have a bit more distance between the filter and the front element when you use an adapter.

resummerfield · Sep 23, 2006

jamie said:
It is possible to use 120 film in A24 backs but you will only get 11 exposures. I think there should be no problem interchanging inserts of backs with different serials as long as the both are the same model, e.g. two A12 backs. I have no idea if it's possible to swap inserts of different models but I think it's not a good idea.

My experiences exactly. I have also used 120 film in a 220 back, and yes, you only get 11 exposures. Hasselblad advises to use matching inserts and shells for optimum results, but I have interchanged inserts and never had any problems.

genecrumpler · Sep 25, 2006

120 in A220 Back

Yes, you can use 120 in a A-220 back. I used a 220 back to shoot both 120 and 220 for a couple of years before getting a 120 back. The insert nonsense is no big deal. When I got the 500cm with the 220 back, the first thing I did was conduct a specific test to determine if 120 could be used in the 220 back. I used Air Force resolution charts and there was no miss focus at F2.8. I talked with Hassie-USA and their only comment was that using 120 in a 220 back might accelerate wear!

If you want to get 12 exposures on 120 film with the 220 back, you can close the back before the arrows align with the Red arrow by about 1/2 inch and usually the 12th frame will be OK. The only problem with this situation is there is little rebate left to load a 120 reel. Often the 12th image will have defects due to attaching the last frame into a SS Reel. If you load by removing the film from the backing and then load from the taped end, this will probably be ok. I personally load from the back in order to avoid handling the film.

I recently stopped using 220 film due to problems with edge fogging.

eric · Sep 25, 2006

thelovecollective said:
i'm new to the hasselblad V system..
i've borrowing a 503CW and 2-220 and 1-120 backs..

I like pie. Just some random answer.

can i shoot 120 film in the 220 backs?

I heard it is possible but maybe some spacing problems.

are the inserts the same for both backs?

Good question. I would think they are not the same cause 220 is bigger.

is it possible to interchange them mixing up serial numbers?

yes

if i get a CW winder, can i still use a strap for the camera?

Yes but you'll need a newer neck and shoulder

is there such thing as a bayonet to screwmount adapter?

Huh? You want to put your Hasselblad lens on a Spotmatic?

which is the best metered prism which can be used with a polaroid back?

45 degrees or 90 degrees? Get a handheld. Not like the prism is coupled to the lens. You'll still need to move the shutter and apeture after you look inside.

thelovecollective · Sep 25, 2006

thanks for the responses so far...
regarding the metering, maybe it's better to use a 203fe instead..
the bayonet to screwmount question is for filters..

here's another thing...
this A12 back, fairly new is experiencing some spacing problems...nothing horrible but when i advance the film with the knob, i feel the film slip sometimes..

is there something wrong with the insert? or did i not load the film tight enough? or maybe i should be advancing film with the crank in one smooth motion...

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