QuadToneProfiler-QuickCurve

MurrayMinchin · Nov 25, 2019

Hi there,

I'm slowly plodding toward polymer photogravures and was wondering if anyone has used QuadToneProfiler-QuickCurve:

https://www.bwmastery.com/quick-curve-k3

It's supposed ease of use is tempting, as I'm pretty new to the digital/computer end of the photography game. Have an Epson P800 that hasn't been fired up for the first time, and still need a scanner for the 4x5 negatives. An etching press is a ways off. Use Mac computers and have Photoshop, Lightroom, and Capture One Pro 12.

Have you used it? Thoughts?

Thanks a bunch,

Murray

MurrayMinchin · Nov 25, 2019

I ask because it comes recommended by Clay Harmon here:

"BWMastery.com has created a Mac-based software tool called QuadToneProfiler-QuickCurve that enables a very streamlined linearization workflow for making digital positives for steel-backed polymer plates."

https://www.clayharmon.com/words*/categories/polymer-photogravure

Harmon is the author of, Polymer Photogravure:

https://www.amazon.com/Polymer-Photogravure-Step-Step-Highlighting/dp/0815366043

I've read the "struggles" people have implementing QuadToneRip and was hoping to get a boost up the first part of the learning curve. Anybody using it?

Alan9940 · Nov 25, 2019

I've used it (the older Excel-based version) on Windows 10 to produce digital negatives for pt/pd printing. What can I say? It does what it is supposed to do. That said, I've returned to other methods that provide more control and/or are easier to use. The only negative thing I could say about QCDN is that I could not get the latest native version to even install on my Windows system and Richard didn't seem to care about expending any effort to find out why.

MurrayMinchin · Nov 25, 2019

Alan9940 said:
I've used it (the older Excel-based version) on Windows 10 to produce digital negatives for pt/pd printing. What can I say? It does what it is supposed to do. That said, I've returned to other methods that provide more control and/or are easier to use. The only negative thing I could say about QCDN is that I could not get the latest native version to even install on my Windows system and Richard didn't seem to care about expending any effort to find out why.

Thanks for chiming in. Will continue investigating it and other options out there.

bnxvs · Feb 3, 2020

http://www.botzilla.com/gearhead/2006/10/24/ChartThrob-A-Tool-for-Printing-Digital-Negatives.html

Richard Boutwell · Mar 2, 2020

Alan9940 said:
I've used it (the older Excel-based version) on Windows 10 to produce digital negatives for pt/pd printing. What can I say? It does what it is supposed to do. That said, I've returned to other methods that provide more control and/or are easier to use. The only negative thing I could say about QCDN is that I could not get the latest native version to even install on my Windows system and Richard didn't seem to care about expending any effort to find out why.

it isn’t that I didn’t care about expending effort on it. It is that I’m not a windows developer, and windows has so many different versions, internal framework numbers and indecipherable errors that it was impossible for me to really know what was happening in your case. Microsoft is designed around people working in large companies and “the enterprise”, not really for solo self-taught people. Additionally the number people who purchased the windows version is such a small percentage of my sales that it isn’t economical to spend the countless hours chasing this for literally the single case where this is a problem.

If you are on MacOS, want do digital negatives or gravure, and want to have the best results with the least amount of work, then my software is what you want. If you are on windows, well, I’m sorry.

radiant · Mar 2, 2020

Just a notice while browsing ChartTrob source code: it sends your usage information to Google https://github.com/joker-b/ChartThrob/blob/master/ChartThrob.jsx

bnxvs · Mar 2, 2020

vedostuu said:
Just a notice while browsing ChartTrob source code: it sends your usage information to Google https://github.com/joker-b/ChartThrob/blob/master/ChartThrob.jsx

Thank's. But at least, the author doesn't hide this))) Unlike many other programs on your PC. The Little Snitch (on Mac OS) is solution, imho )))

radiant · Mar 2, 2020

bnxvs said:
Thank's. But at least, the author doesn't hide this))) Unlike many other programs on your PC. The Little Snitch (on Mac OS) is solution, imho )))

Off-topic: Maybe even under 10 years ago it was a really big no-no for programs to make un-authorized connections (aka call home etc.). Today it is almost the other way: all apps and programs call home behind the curtains over https so you cannot even see what data is being sent. Scary.

banksy · Mar 16, 2020

Richard Boutwell said:
If you are on MacOS, want do digital negatives or gravure, and want to have the best results with the least amount of work, then my software is what you want. If you are on windows, well, I’m sorry.

Maybe you should drop Windows altogether, or at least make it clear on your website that support is virtually non-existent before folks part with their hard earned cash

Richard Boutwell · Mar 16, 2020

banksy said:
Maybe you should drop Windows altogether, or at least make it clear on your website that support is virtually non-existent before folks part with their hard earned cash

I can support things in windows app that I do have control over, and are part of the actual functionality of the app. Weird edge cases (only 1 in this case) that are caused of the different windows version numbers, internal windows frameworks, and their indecipherable errors are something that I can’t solve and, as a result, refunded the purchase.

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