Processing agfa scala 200x

I've just come into 4 rolls of the said scala 200x. Expired 2007 135x36exp
I would be interested to know any thoughts on processing this as negative film. I normally use ID11 and Ilford films and really I'm not too interested in producing slides. The cost of kits - Adox reversal 39.e for 8 films ( I only got 4) or Foma at a simillar price in the UK a bit more than I want to spend on experimenting.
I don't know if I can get any of the required chemicals in UK to do diy reversal as described on the Ilford site, this could possibly be interesting ?
So mainly - expose at box speed? says it can be pushed pulled?
ID11 OK?
Develop as Ilford xxxxx?
Or just sell it and buy normal Ilford.
Sorry so many questions.
Cheers.
Steve.

Steve906 said:

I've just come into 4 rolls of the said scala 200x. Expired 2007 135x36exp
I would be interested to know any thoughts on processing this as negative film. I normally use ID11 and Ilford films and really I'm not too interested in producing slides. The cost of kits - Adox reversal 39.e for 8 films ( I only got 4) or Foma at a simillar price in the UK a bit more than I want to spend on experimenting.
I don't know if I can get any of the required chemicals in UK to do diy reversal as described on the Ilford site, this could possibly be interesting ?
So mainly - expose at box speed? says it can be pushed pulled?

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It's a similar emulsion to APX-100 (original) but with additional silver added. If you shoot it at box speed and don't reverse it in the Scala process, it will have some loss of shadow detail. If you shoot it at 100 or so, you will probably like the results better. In either case you will find that highlights become fairly dense, but the negatives are nice IMO. The base is clear. Develop as per the *original* APX-100, not the current stuff. You can find those times on this old version of the Massive Dev Chart.

relistan said:

It's a similar emulsion to APX-100 (original) but with additional silver added. If you shoot it at box speed and don't reverse it in the Scala process, it will have some loss of shadow detail. If you shoot it at 100 or so, you will probably like the results better. In either case you will find that highlights become fairly dense, but the negatives are nice IMO. The base is clear. Develop as per the *original* APX-100, not the current stuff. You can find those times on this old version of the Massive Dev Chart.

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Great info relistan thanks for that.

I've reversal developed this with a DIY recipe, some examples can be seen here: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/bnw-reversal-attempts.179724/page-5#post-2410468

As for reversal goes, it's a pretty laborious process but the end result is worth it. It's up to you if you want to go down into the rabbit hole as there are a lot of technical skills absent from normal B&W negative developing (e.g. mixing and handling the bleach, re-exposing the film to light, etc).

YoIaMoNwater said:

I've reversal developed this with a DIY recipe, some examples can be seen here: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/bnw-reversal-attempts.179724/page-5#post-2410468

As for reversal goes, it's a pretty laborious process but the end result is worth it. It's up to you if you want to go down into the rabbit hole as there are a lot of technical skills absent from normal B&W negative developing (e.g. mixing and handling the bleach, re-exposing the film to light, etc).

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Mmmm the more I'm looking at this the more I'm thinking reversal is just another project I haven't the time for at the moment. great info though. I remember using dia direct? I think that is what it was called. It included processing, just send off and receive back a nice box of slides, shame no one does that anymore.
Cheers.

Steve906 said:

Mmmm the more I'm looking at this the more I'm thinking reversal is just another project I haven't the time for at the moment. great info though. I remember using dia direct? I think that is what it was called. It included processing, just send off and receive back a nice box of slides, shame no one does that anymore.
Cheers.

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If you do want to do reversal you can send it off to a few places. In Europe these folks are the ones I see recommended. They still run the original Agfa process: https://www.photostudio13.de/fotos-plakate/entwickeln/

Steve906 said:

I remember using dia direct? I think that is what it was called. It included processing, just send off and receive back a nice box of slides, shame no one does that anymore.

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If I remember correctly, (I read it somewhere) Dia Direct was a chromogenic version of the Agfa slide film, AP41 process, like CT18.