Problems opening "Marketing and Advertising Photographic Film"

Sorry to start an identical thread to that of xo-whiplock but I cannot ask my question there for the simple reason that I cannot open the thread. I have no problems with any other thread on APUG.

Is there anyone else having problems trying to open the thread. Clearly at least 13 APUGers can open it as there are 13 replies

When I click on it, it repeats the opening title with an A in front of it and a 1x1 after it and produces a blank white screen

Anyone with any idea what is happening?

Thanks

pentaxuser

Have you tried clearing your browser cache and restarting your browser? Also try a different browser to see what happens (will rule out an account issue)

Consider your self lucky that you could not post to that inferno that is now closed, not this site's finest hour.

I market and promote film by showing outstanding work made with it, handing out business cards that allow people to contact me about workshops, fine art prints, etc. I am always positive about film because I have reason to be, it has evolved into a wonderful niche.

But what I see on this site sadly more often than not and especially in this section is how *not* to promote film. You don't promote film by criticizing those who now use digital by making them feel stupid for their choice. Real photographers know that digital has been around long enough that it too is a mature medium in which to record an image. I happen to use and enjoy both for their strengths, have been making excellent images with both for decades at this point. I choose camera systems that make it easy and fun to use both film and digital together as a whole unit of highly flexible vision.


You also don't promote film by constantly picking apart and trying to figure out what film companies are doing or constantly chastising them for what you alone think is wrong. If they are making film and you can still buy it, why on earth would you criticize or over analyze them to death? All the photographers I know who use film simply do not do this, ever. I sure as heck don't and I warmly welcome any and all makers of film, paper and chemistry products, am very grateful to have them in 2015. To bash any film maker on a site like this or to a potential user of film is off putting, you will never gain a film user by doing that.



You promote film by taking charge of the grass roots aspect of getting people excited. People buy drones or GoPro cameras because of the work they see being done with them or the excitement it brings people in online communities like social media or places like this. No one in those user groups would ever be critical of the companies that make those products because they are not taking out full page ads in glossy magazines or appearing on billboards, the products sell through the momentum of use within the user base.


Same with film folks, it is really that simple.

I agree with poster above on using Film to promote it and showing work on film.
People definitely get interested to see what's happening wrt Film when they log in or see it being developed etc.,
More power to that!

I disagree equally on the ' don't criticise Film companies' bit. Who will criticise companies if not users? Robots?

LOL. did someone say digital sensor R&D had stopped?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34173423

That thread opened fine here in Firefox -- perhaps unfortunately! About 96% of the photos I've submitted to local art or photography shows have been film based, mostly without even the distraction of color! That's about as promotional as this old guy gets.

[But just for clarity -- MY selfie stick reads "Polaroid"!!!!] :munch:

The original thread was closed. That means deleted.

I have no selfie stick. That's what tripods and self-timers are for.

I promote film in some small way, by talking positively about it. Which helps since most of the film I shoot is a positive film.

I have just opened the infamous thread, but there is nothing to see there. I mean, i can read all the posts, but that was really a useless thread, so better forgotten.

As for THIS thread, i advertise photographic film -i guess- by using a film camera out on the street and/or at social events. When somebody asks about the camera I explain that it uses film, that you can buy film today in 2015, that I enjoy it, and so on.

As for digital cameras, I also have a DSLR and use it whenever I do need the advantages of such medium. Most of the time (95%) i shoot film.

It's all about the image, not so much about the capture media. Who really cares if a good image was recorded on film or a sensor... If it's a good image.

I shoot film 90 percent and glad to talk about it if people are interested. In general, I see more indifference than interest.

BrianShaw said:

It's all about the image, not so much about the capture media. Who really cares if a good image was recorded on film or a sensor... If it's a good image.

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Sedition in the ranks.

Report to the parade ground, where you'll have your epaulettes torn off and your sword broken ...

I promote film by making certain that all of my antique film cameras (they're all antiques now, right?) are kept in like-new cosmetic condition. Then when I take them out in public I don't have to actively promote a thing.

The equipment does all of the promoting passively by attracting the curious (and often envious) who invariably then arrive with questions, and are already in a positive mood about film because of the stunning retro-style cameras at which they are looking.

Because the cameras look like new, the first question is often,

"Where did you get that beautiful replica?"

"It's not a replica. It's the real deal. It's a <fill in the year> <fill in the manufacturer> <fill in the model number> camera. That makes it <fill in the camera age> years old."

"Oh my god. It's gorgeous. Does it work?"

"Of course. Light hasn't changed in the last <fill in the camera age> years, and the engineers who designed it knew exactly what they were doing. It works as well today as the day it was made. Would you like to hold it and take a closer look?"

"Really?? Can I !!!?"

"Sure..."

Then the obligatory question,

"Can you still get film for it? It must be expensive and hard to find."

"Film is easy to find. You just can't reliably find it at the local drug store any longer. Like everything else these days it's an online purchase item."

"My dad has an old film camera. Can I find film for that?"

"Sure, try <fill in Freestyle's web address>, and for lots of interesting reading about using film cameras today, try <fill in APUG's web address>".

Then, after you repeat that information so they can type it into their smartphone,

"Thank you so much! I wish I had a camera like that."

Then I set the hook...

"You should go find your father's old camera. I'll bet it still works as well as this one..."

"Thanks! I think I will!"

The film promotion has now been successfully completed.



Ken

pdeeh said:

Sedition in the ranks.

Report to the parade ground, where you'll have your epaulettes torn off and your sword broken ...

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But, but.... Sir, I deserve a reprieve!

BrianShaw said:

It's all about the image, not so much about the capture media. Who really cares if a good image was recorded on film or a sensor... If it's a good image.

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pdeeh said:

Sedition in the ranks.

Report to the parade ground, where you'll have your epaulettes torn off and your sword broken ...

Click to expand...

BrianShaw said:

But, but.... Sir, I deserve a reprieve!

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I do not think so BrianShaw, I am with pdeeh on this one. You should wash your mouth out with PhotoFlo!

Fifty lashes with a camel hair lens brush for the infidel!

pdeeh said:

Sedition in the ranks.

Report to the parade ground, where you'll have your epaulettes torn off and your sword broken ...

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Great news! Amateur Photographer UK magazine announces film renaissance with a guide to film and setting up a darkroom! Hits shelves tomorrow. The word is getting out that film is "cool" again! http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/latest-announcements/film-guide-free-with-amateur-photographer-19-sept-2015-60923

xo-whiplock said:

Great news! Amateur Photographer UK magazine announces film renaissance with a guide to film and setting up a darkroom! Hits shelves tomorrow. The word is getting out that film is "cool" again! http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...-with-amateur-photographer-19-sept-2015-60923

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Gee, I never knew a time when it was not.