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alanportfolio

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i ran out of film, and last night i was just snapping pictures without film in there. this morning i got my camera out, and the flash doesn't work. the lcd just says "err" on it. what is the error? could it be the battery? but the battery meter looks just fine!
 
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even if i don't take a picture with flash, there is still an error message
 

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I think your camera is probably fine. Try loading some film and putting on an AF lens, i'll bet the 'err' message goes away.
 
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yeah, i was thinking it's probably just needing some film. just wondering if anything was actually wrong.

thanks!
 

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Not really a good idea to dry fire the camera. Guess ya don't have a manual? The Err signal blinks when there is no film in the camera.
Get to the local camera shop and pick up some ammo. Even your local grocery store should have film.

Mike

PS:One of the best lessons I learned was to read the manual from cover to cover, 4 times, before even loading a roll of film.
"Haste lays waste"
jmk
 
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haha, sorry. i didn't know i wasn't supposed to dry-fire the camera. it didn't come with a manual. but i'll buy one from somewhere.

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alanportfolio said:
p.s. what happens from dry-firing a camera?

Nothing untoward. Most manuals recommend you become accustomed to the camera functionality and controls before loading film. I 'dry-fire' my LF lenses/shutters all the time and often do it with SLR cameras when I'm checking for vignetting of filter and holder combinations. The only two downsides are that if your shutter is electronic it'll consume battery power. Secondly all shutters and other mechanical camera components have a finite life (or a certain number of shots before failure if you like) but I doubt you'll find this a problem unless you use a large amount of film.

Roger.
 

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Dedicated TTL flashes will give false readings and errors if no film is in the camera. This is because the light meter reading is taken from light that bounces off the film surface at the moment of exposure. As film is usually a dull mid-grey or brown colour, the light meter is calibrated for that shade. When there is no film in the camera, the light meter sees a black shiny surface and gets itself totally confused.

I came across this 'problem' over 20 years ago, testing a Pentax Super A with a dedicated flash without any film. I took it back to the dealer only to be sent away feeling very silly.

The light meter thats used for daylight (non-flash) photography is different and is not affected by dry running the camera.
 
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petebown said:
Dedicated TTL flashes will give false readings and errors if no film is in the camera. This is because the light meter reading is taken from light that bounces off the film surface at the moment of exposure. As film is usually a dull mid-grey or brown colour, the light meter is calibrated for that shade. When there is no film in the camera, the light meter sees a black shiny surface and gets itself totally confused.

I came across this 'problem' over 20 years ago, testing a Pentax Super A with a dedicated flash without any film. I took it back to the dealer only to be sent away feeling very silly.

The light meter thats used for daylight (non-flash) photography is different and is not affected by dry running the camera.

aha, i see. okay, thank you
 
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