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Hi new here.Was wondering about printing papers B&W or Color used between
1945-1965. Researching a project so any info would be greatly appreciated.
web pages, people i could contact etc.
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zgan said:
Hi new here.Was wondering about printing papers B&W or Color used between
1945-1965. Researching a project so any info would be greatly appreciated.
web pages, people i could contact etc.
thanks zgan

heres my email photoresto@hotmail.com

One of the best sources for info on old papers are the Photo Anuals from that time period. Most libraries still have them in their collections. I still use libraries for most of my research so perhaps someone else can point you to an electronic source...

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zgan said:
Hi new here.Was wondering about printing papers B&W or Color used between
1945-1965. Researching a project so any info would be greatly appreciated.
web pages, people i could contact etc.
thanks zgan

heres my email photoresto@hotmail.com


Velite, Velox, Brovira, Lupex, Portriga, Azo to name a few prominent ones for B&W.

For color, Agfa Color and Kodachrome print materials as well as Dye Transfer, Bromoil, Carbro and others.

All in use before 1950.

After ~1950 there are too many to name in B&W but in color there were the Ansco Printon and Kodak type "C" and "R" print materials added to the list and this does not include products made in Japan or the Soviet Union, nor does it include ORWO products and etc.

Have fun doing your homework.

PE
 

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Zgan: I have a couple of the Kodak Reference Manuals. They list what Kodak had available commercially and give some characteristics. Would they be of any help?
 

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Old photo books and magazines are probably the best source of this information.

Kodak and Ansco were the big names in the US and Asia at the time. DuPont (or Defender early in the period) was important in the print and industrial markets. Haloid played a small part, mostly in industrial markets. There were also several other, smaller brands. Ansco (later GAF) was the result of the U.S. government's confiscation of Agfa properties in the U. S. during World War I. It continued to be owned and controlled by the government (though managed independently) until after World War II. Many of the products continued to have the same names and similar properties to their Agfa counterparts. Adox, Agfa, Gevaert, and (I think) Ilford were the European names (this list may be incomplete or incorrect).

I have a copy of the Photo Lab Index dating from the mid-forties. It lists films like Ansco Supreme, Ultra Speed Pan, Plenachrome, Superpan press; Kodak Commercial, Ortho-X, Super-XX, Panatomic-X, Portrait Panchromatic, Tri-X (not anything like its rebirth in the 50s), Super Panchro Press, Plus-X, Verichrome (the orthochromatic type), Infrared. Papers included Ansco Convira (contact), Cykon (contact), Indiatone, Brovia, Cykora; Defender Apex, Velour Black, Varigam (variable contrast); Kodak Azo, Athena (contact), Kodabromide, Opal, Platino, Resisto and Resisto Rapid (resin coated), Royal Bromide, Velox (contact). The principal color films were Ansco Color (a transparency film), Kodachrome (ASA 10 speed), and Ektachrome (ASA 8). Kodacolor came along in the late forties - and it was terrible. Kodachrome prints were available, made on a thick, white film material using the full Kodachrome process. Home users and professional labs could make prints on Ansco Color, which used a similar base. Most of the real quality work was done using dye transfer, carbon, or carbro processes, however.

In the mid to late fifties there was something of a revolution, and most of these products disappeared. Thin emulsion films were introduced, and improved versions of Kodak Plus-X, Tri-X, and Panatomic-X were introduced, along with Verichrome Pan and Royal Pan. Color emulsions improved, and there was a war between Anscochrome and Ektachrome for market share. Ansco offered an unheard of ASA 100 speed Anscochrome. Kodacolor improved to the point of respectability. Kodak also introduced the first Polycontrast and Polycontrast Rapid papers at this time. They were not as good as Varigam, but Kodak's marketing force gave them a significant share. Kodak also introduced Medalist, which became the routine graded paper for most users. Near the end of this period, DuPont retired from the consumer market, although it continued for a while in the motion picture and industrial areas. This period also marked the beginning of ready availability of the European films and papers in the U. S.

This has been a long and very incomplete summary, but I hope it helps. Look in a good (really good) library and you may be able to find more.
 

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On ebay one can often find the sample books from the makers

Kodak made one in the early '50s with 3x5 images from all their line... variations in surface, base, emulsion, texture... 50 images or so.

Geveart made a surface then that had almost a light, furry texture. very cool

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One additional note. Papers in the thirties through the sixties came in a huge assortment of surfaces. My old documentations shows 15 different surfaces for Kodak Opal alone. People often wanted a warmer tone to the paper base than they do now. One of the most popular surfaces was the Kodak G surface - cream white, luster, fine-grained. Other manufacturers had similar surfaces. (The fine-grained surface had a slight dimple effect. Today you sometimes see it on color papers as the E surface (white, luster, fine-grained)). White and ivory colored stock was also availabe, and surfaces included smooth, silk, rough, tweed, and suede matte (very matte) among others. Glossy paper was usually ferrotyped to a very high gloss. Image tone varied from really cold blue-black through warm dark browns, and the developer had a significant effect on image tone, especially with warm toned papers. In the sixties, Kodak introduced some "high luster" surfaces with Medalist, including J (smooth, high luster, white - it looked a lot like unferrortyped glossy VC paper) and K (fine-grained, high-luster, white).

One of my favorite papers was Kodak Ektalure, about the last of the beautiful warm toned papers. Originally it came in a great variety of surfaces, and the rough, tapestry, and fine-grained surfaces continued to its death sometime in the eighties or early nineties.
 
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