Print Sale

sanking · Aug 9, 2005

Will there be a print sale sponsored by APUG at the conference? I am thinking that many of us would like to have an opportunity to look at, and possible buy, some of the work of fellow members. And if APUG ran it there could be a way to charge a small percentage of sales to cover conference expenses.

Some places sponsor print exchanges but unfortunatley I just can not swap carbon prints for other kinds of prints on an equal basis. However, I would not mind selling a few prints and using some or all of the revenue to buy prints that I like from members.

Sandy

David A. Goldfarb · Aug 9, 2005

Not a bad idea. I'd be interested.

jd callow · Aug 9, 2005

We have a print competition and we are offering the option of having an auction of prints with proceeds going to apug.

We have a nice gallery where the images will hang. If the interest is there we will figure out how to do it.

Apugers?

bobbysandstrom · Aug 10, 2005

I'm interested. Count me in.

User Removed · Aug 10, 2005

Count me in also!

Daniel Grenier · Aug 10, 2005

I too very much like the idea of a print sale. I'd be interested in both selling and buying.

It could be the formal approach we all know (time consuming) or, OTOH, it could be as simple as you & I bringing a box full of mounted pics and laying the box down on the floor and you & I rummaging through it..... just like at the flea market

pelerin · Aug 11, 2005

sanking said:
Will there be a print sale sponsored by APUG at the conference? I am thinking that many of us would like to have an opportunity to look at, and possible buy, some of the work of fellow members. And if APUG ran it there could be a way to charge a small percentage of sales to cover conference expenses.

Some places sponsor print exchanges but unfortunatley I just can not swap carbon prints for other kinds of prints on an equal basis. However, I would not mind selling a few prints and using some or all of the revenue to buy prints that I like from members.

Sandy

Sandy,
Please excuse a neophyte question but what it is the intrinsic value of a carbon print? Are they more expensive or difficult to produce than, for example, platinum or color gum prints? I'm not questioning the value of a "Sandy King" but rather just curious the time and materials value vis-a-vis other alt - process. Thanks.
Celac.

photomc · Aug 12, 2005

You know a Pre-Sale Gallery here might make it so that anyone not able to attend could purchase a print as well. Basic gallery format, with a price, with proceeds going to individual and of course APUG. Might be nice if these were identified as 1st APUG conference prints somehow.....just a thought.

jd callow · Aug 12, 2005

I have discussed this with bob and we will have a Show, Swap , Sale at the conference but need some how to guidence...

Claire Senft · Aug 12, 2005

Carbon prints are difficult to master. They can be B&W. They can be color. They can be any combination of colors that the printer desires. They can be as archival a platinum..it depends on the pigment(s) and paper chosen.

Compared to platinum the ingredients used are less expensive. The process though offers much more complexity and more things to control.

Making a three color carbon print is, in my opinion, the highest form of darkroom craft.

In the 1930's high end printers for 3 color carbon used in advertising were charging $10,000 and more for producing a print.

There was an interesting item mentioned in a biography of the founder of Revlon. He was about to wite some comments on a proof for an advertising campaign. The salesman touched his wrist and told him if he wrote on the proof he was spending $10,000. He chose not to write on the print.

Obviously, at least to me, the value of any print is measured more by what has been printed then which process was used.

bjorke · Aug 12, 2005

...and I suggest a curtained "gray zone" for the hybrids, a bit like the "adult" section at my local video store (if that's "adult," what's the rest of the store called?)

(further suggestions might be colored incense-flavored smoke and the sound of mashup mp3's eeking out through the curtain, but that's a whole extra riff)

Jim Chinn · Aug 13, 2005

I would be inerested from a buying perspective. I can start budget know for a possible purchase.

sanking · Aug 13, 2005

pelerin said:
Sandy,
Please excuse a neophyte question but what it is the intrinsic value of a carbon print? Are they more expensive or difficult to produce than, for example, platinum or color gum prints? I'm not questioning the value of a "Sandy King" but rather just curious the time and materials value vis-a-vis other alt - process. Thanks.
Celac.

Prints, whatever the process, do not have any intrinsic value. Value is a market condition established primarily by the reputation of the artist.

I am not saying that my carbon prints are more valuable "per se" than inkjet, silver gelatin, or prints made with other alternative processes. They are, however, much more difficult and time consuming to make, and that is why I don't normally engage in print exchanges. For example, I also print with Pt./Pd. and in any given week, with everything going right, I could make 10-20 keeper Pt./Pd. prints of 12X20" size for every keeper carbon print of the same size.

Sandy

pelerin · Aug 13, 2005

sanking said:
Prints, whatever the process, do not have any intrinsic value. Value is a market condition established primarily by the reputation of the artist.

I am not saying that my carbon prints are more valuable "per se" than inkjet, silver gelatin, or prints made with other alternative processes. They are, however, much more difficult and time consuming to make, and that is why I don't normally engage in print exchanges. For example I also print with Pt./Pd. and in any given week, with everything going right, I could make 10-20 keeper Pt./Pd. prints of 12X20" size for every keeper carbon print of the same size.

Sandy

Sandy,
Thanks.
Celac.

Gustavo_Castilla · Aug 20, 2005

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