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Pricing alternative process prints for art fairs

koraks said:
That sounds like a valuable exercise to me. For several reasons.
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He was very effectively demonstrating the importance of Art-speak -- and the lack thereof.

If you want to sell your photos, you better be a good salesman.

If you're selling used cars it's called "throwing the B.S.". If you're selling art it's referred to as "Art-speak". If you're a politician, it's called.................
 
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IDK, I can appreciate a good salesman and I can appreciate a good story. Good salesmen tend to have good stories. But there are a heck of a lot of mediocre or even bad salesmen around. Fortunately for them, there's also a lot of indifferent customers with money burning in their pockets.

Anyway, the notion that selling art would somehow involve BS is...well, BS, I think. But I do understand that some stories don't make a whole lot of sense to some people - or simply don't appeal to them. That doesn't make them bad stories, per se.
 
I've heard enough Art-speak and used car sales pitches to know that there's no definitive line between it and salesman B.S. What's the difference between a successful salesman and an unsuccessful one? It's certainly not telling the truth, but it might be, as you suggest, the ability to tell a good story -- AKA, B.S.

I still remember back when I bought my last car. The salesman told me that State Law required a $300 undercoating. I told him that it was not the case, and showed him the Chevrolet Sales Brochure which clearly stated that adding an undercoating voided the Chevy warranty. His response was, "I wouldn't lie to you, I used to play for the NFL".

The best con men aren't liars, but they don't tell the truth either.
 
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xkaes said:
It's certainly not telling the truth
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I'm sorry, but that's representative of only a small sub-section of salespeople. There's a lot of sales that's going on that involves insightful and well-informed discussion. However, I do agree that it's not something the second hand car market is particularly well-known for. And while I understand that this is a popular example, I find the association between that and the narrative one might have to explain a work of art kind of forced.

Anyway, I'm not here to change your views on certain professions. Just giving a counter-point to your IMO crass allegations; with that done, there's no need to further explore it. I wish @cirwin2010 the best of luck selling his prints, and I think a good story to go along with them will definitely make a difference.
 
We definitely agree that a good story will make a difference. So will a tall tale.
 

the price of film, paper & chemicals are part of the upfront cost
 
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