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I air dry on screens now, but as we know, FB paper does not often dry flat. I recently acquired a used (ca. 1980?) but relatively clean Premier Model 110 print dryer, which I would like to try to use to dry FB prints. I intend to thoroughly wash the canvases (two sided model), but do not see how those might be removed. It looks like one must fully disassemble the unit, which I would prefer not to do.

Q1: anyone have the mfg. / user manual for one of these?

Q2: or/and informed recommendations for cleaning the canvases?

Of course, my fall back will be to wash the canvases in situ.

When I first began printing (in the mid-1960s) I inherited a similar-design '40s vintage print dryer from which the cavas was removable for cleaning, so I am hopeful.

Thanks for your attention!
 

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I have one, I used it for glossy FB paper, I had a local seamstresses make a new canvas apron for it, like 20 years ago, last time I washed it I washed it in cold water, used Woolite let it air dry until just damp then put it back on the dryer in the close position until dry. It kept its shape. Unless you can find or make a print flatting solution the prints will still curl, and it an art to getting a really good glossy, time and practice. Currently I use RC for glossy and for semi gloss I dry on screens.
 
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I have one, I used it for glossy FB paper, I had a local seamstresses make a new canvas apron for it, like 20 years ago, last time I washed it I washed it in cold water, used Woolite let it air dry until just damp then put it back on the dryer in the close position until dry. It kept its shape. Unless you can find or make a print flatting solution the prints will still curl, and it an art to getting a really good glossy, time and practice. Currently I use RC for glossy and for semi gloss I dry on screens.

Many thanks, Paul!

Q: Do you recall how you removed the canvas apron from the machine?

As far as I can see, one must remove the bolts on both sides of the machine, each of which thread into one end of the two beams that (hinge-like) hold the aprons in place. At that point, the heating plates also come free and the entire thing is on its way to being disassembled. I got that far and decided against going further.

Kevin
 

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Many thanks, Paul!

Q: Do you recall how you removed the canvas apron from the machine?

As far as I can see, one must remove the bolts on both sides of the machine, each of which thread into one end of the two beams that (hinge-like) hold the aprons in place. At that point, the heating plates also come free and the entire thing is on its way to being disassembled. I got that far and decided against going further.

Kevin

Sorry, not off the top of my head, I looked for my dryer but I must have put in my storage unit.
 
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Further on cleaning a print dryer canvas

(as noted above, I recently acquired a Premiere #110 two-sided print dryer, and want to ensure that the canvases are clean of chemicals.)

There is no obvious way to remove the canvases without completely disassembling the unit. The drying plates are flexed over a curved step integral to the plastic end pieces; the canvas cover sweeper bars are attached to springs inside the unit (which cannot be reattached without disassembly); and the canvases are attached along one long side to a bar that is held in place by the four machine screws that hold the unit together. Not confident that I could successfully reassemble the unit once I had it in pieces, I chose to wash the canvases in place.

My objective is not a canvas that appears pristine. I would like a canvas that is free of fixer or other chemicals, and so pH neutral.

I have read several reports on bulletin boards that describe various cleaning methods. If the canvas can be removed, methods used included soaking the canvas in laundry bleach, washing the canvas with dish soap, and even washing the canvas in a clothes washing machine.

I consider the challenges to be a combination of: a) an adequate washing process, b) an adequate rinsing process, c) an adequate drying process, to be accomplished without getting moisture inside the unit - on the heating element, temperature rheostat, or other wiring inside the unit. The attached photos illustrate how I approached those problems.

Materials used: pH neutral soap, cool or lukewarm water, clean mixing containers, a clean darkroom tray.

Controlling pH. I have some experience with museum conservation techniques and so ruled out using laundry bleach as it is extremely alkaline and corrosive. I was suspicious of using household dish soap because of the chemicals those may contain and because they are not typically pH neutral. A standard textile soap used by conservators is Orvus WA paste, which is available from museum conservation supply retailers and (interestingly) from animal care supply retailers. Orvus is marketed to horse stables as a shampoo for horses. In my area (northeastern United States), Tractor Supply Co. stocks it. If you look online, you may find a 'single use' package for about $4, which is plenty for this project.

Orvus is considered to have a nearly-neutral pH. See the enclosed pH test strips and note that dish soaps tested a bit acidic. I mixed up a soapy solution of approximately 10 ml Orvus soap : 1 liter H2O. If local water quality is a concern, use distilled or filtered water. I used tap water.

Step 1: Using a clean cotton towel or cloth, apply the soap solution to each side of the canvas, until the canvas is thoroughly wetted and soap foam is visible. I started with the 'outside' and then opened the cover and repeated on the underside. Gentle scrubbing with the cloth will help loosen particulates in the fabric.

Step 2. Set the unit on end, with the canvas cover open, and allow the soap to interact with whatever particulate is present – approximately 2 or 3 minutes should be sufficient.

Step 3. Open the canvas cover over a clean tray of some sort and begin the process of rising out the soap, starting from the underside and pushing water, with a clean cloth, through to the top side. Periodically dump the dirty water that accumulates in the tray. Rinse repeatedly with fresh water, until the rinse coming off the canvas is clear. This will require multiple rinses. In my case, the first rinse water was a dark staw color. Repeat until the rinse water is visibly clear.

Step 4. After completing the rinsing process, stand the unit on end with the camvas open and allow the water to run off into the tray.

Step 5. While the canvas is still wet, close the cover so that it dries in place (avoid shrinkage).

NB: Be certain the unit is fully dry before applying electrical current!
 

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mcfitz

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I have one, I used it for glossy FB paper, I had a local seamstresses make a new canvas apron for it, like 20 years ago, last time I washed it I washed it in cold water, used Woolite let it air dry until just damp then put it back on the dryer in the close position until dry. It kept its shape. Unless you can find or make a print flatting solution the prints will still curl, and it an art to getting a really good glossy, time and practice. Currently I use RC for glossy and for semi gloss I dry on screens.

Paul, did you use another canvas fabric, which often has a coarser weave, or a fabric with a smoother, almost silky surface? And, have you noticed any effect the texture of the fabric might imprint on the surface of the print?

We have a Kinzel print dryer at the shared darkroom I use & are need to replace the cotton cover of it soon. It is easy to dismount the fabric cover, at least, and I've done so & washed it several times.

After over ten or twelve years of use, the material is leaving small fibres on the surface of the print which is disastrous. They actually embed in the emulsion of some papers, with Foma being the worst.

@eeffock, from the look of that canvas, replacing it might be a better solution. To my eyes, it looks as though some of the stains & marks are from growth of mould & mildew due to huidity & however it was stored. Washing it won't necessarily restore it to satisfactory condition.

A natural fibre such as cotton or maybe linen (not sure about the linen) is best, as they both withstand the heat used by a dryer best. Synthetics of any sort, I would never use for many reasons, with non-resistance to heat being the first in this case.

Oh one more thing. If you do have a new one made, or make it yourself, pre-wash your fabric before doing so. This will remove any sizing in the material that can be present from the manufacturing of the cloth. It will also look after any potential shrinkage. Make sure it is well rinsed to remove any and all trace of soap and do not use bleach or fabric softeners. And in case anyone wonders, I work extensively in fabric & textiles, modern and historical.

I'll be interested to read the follow up on this. Good luck.
 
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mcfitz

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Further on cleaning a print dryer canvas

(as noted above, I recently acquired a Premiere #110 two-sided print dryer, and want to ensure that the canvases are clean of chemicals.)

There is no obvious way to remove the canvases without completely disassembling the unit. The drying plates are flexed over a curved step integral to the plastic end pieces; the canvas cover sweeper bars are attached to springs inside the unit (which cannot be reattached without disassembly); and the canvases are attached along one long side to a bar that is held in place by the four machine screws that hold the unit together. Not confident that I could successfully reassemble the unit once I had it in pieces, I chose to wash the canvases in place.

My objective is not a canvas that appears pristine. I would like a canvas that is free of fixer or other chemicals, and so pH neutral.

I have read several reports on bulletin boards that describe various cleaning methods. If the canvas can be removed, methods used included soaking the canvas in laundry bleach, washing the canvas with dish soap, and even washing the canvas in a clothes washing machine.

I consider the challenges to be a combination of: a) an adequate washing process, b) an adequate rinsing process, c) an adequate drying process, to be accomplished without getting moisture inside the unit - on the heating element, temperature rheostat, or other wiring inside the unit. The attached photos illustrate how I approached those problems.

Materials used: pH neutral soap, cool or lukewarm water, clean mixing containers, a clean darkroom tray.

Controlling pH. I have some experience with museum conservation techniques and so ruled out using laundry bleach as it is extremely alkaline and corrosive. I was suspicious of using household dish soap because of the chemicals those may contain and because they are not typically pH neutral. A standard textile soap used by conservators is Orvus WA paste, which is available from museum conservation supply retailers and (interestingly) from animal care supply retailers. Orvus is marketed to horse stables as a shampoo for horses. In my area (northeastern United States), Tractor Supply Co. stocks it. If you look online, you may find a 'single use' package for about $4, which is plenty for this project.

Orvus is considered to have a nearly-neutral pH. See the enclosed pH test strips and note that dish soaps tested a bit acidic. I mixed up a soapy solution of approximately 10 ml Orvus soap : 1 liter H2O. If local water quality is a concern, use distilled or filtered water. I used tap water.

Step 1: Using a clean cotton towel or cloth, apply the soap solution to each side of the canvas, until the canvas is thoroughly wetted and soap foam is visible. I started with the 'outside' and then opened the cover and repeated on the underside. Gentle scrubbing with the cloth will help loosen particulates in the fabric.

Step 2. Set the unit on end, with the canvas cover open, and allow the soap to interact with whatever particulate is present – approximately 2 or 3 minutes should be sufficient.

Step 3. Open the canvas cover over a clean tray of some sort and begin the process of rising out the soap, starting from the underside and pushing water, with a clean cloth, through to the top side. Periodically dump the dirty water that accumulates in the tray. Rinse repeatedly with fresh water, until the rinse coming off the canvas is clear. This will require multiple rinses. In my case, the first rinse water was a dark staw color. Repeat until the rinse water is visibly clear.

Step 4. After completing the rinsing process, stand the unit on end with the camvas open and allow the water to run off into the tray.

Step 5. While the canvas is still wet, close the cover so that it dries in place (avoid shrinkage).

NB: Be certain the unit is fully dry before applying electrical current!

Sorry, I didn't see this post when I replied to Paul!
So much of what I suggested does not apply, you've done thorough research and it is quite interesting to read The process. Thank you.
 
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