Praising the RB67 Pro S -- Hail the Emperor of Medium Format

Theo Sulphate

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I've spent part of this week making photos with one of my RB67 Pro S cameras and a 140mm f/4.5 Macro lens. This is a very nice combination. For someone wanting to enter medium format photography and have a high quality robust modular system, the RB67 Pro S is exactly what to get and cannot be surpassed. Bodies, lenses, and accessories are plentiful and inexpensive. It's not hard to find them in very good working condition.

I praise the RB67 Pro S (and SD) from the perspective of someone who owns, uses, and has enjoyed Hasselblads for over 20 years (I have the 500C/M, the 501C, the SWC, and the 553ELX, plus lenses from the 50/4 CF FLE to the 250/5.6). They are solid well built cameras for demanding professional use.

Yet, the RB is so enjoyable to use. I think it is better. Why? Lots of simple things that make it better overall:

- Closer focusing with all lenses, with compensation for exposure indicated
- A larger negative, with portrait or landscape orientations readily chosen
- Same set of interlocks Hasselblad has, plus preventing you from dismounting an uncocked body and lens.
- Equally modular in terms of backs, adapters, screens, prisms, etc.
- Easy double exposure if you want it
- A place for the dark slide!
- Focus lock
- After 10 exposures, you're done with the roll! (yay!)

The RB has some disadvantages:

- Weight and size
- Film is advanced separately from body cocking (actually, I like this)
- No motorized version
- Doesn't use Zeiss lenses (but in the final print will it matter?)
- Pre-release isn't as simple as with Hasselblad
- After 10 exposures, you're done with the roll! (so soon?)

Certainly weight and size would be one criteria where someone wouldn't like using the camera. Also, it just doesn't feel like a Hasselblad - and that may be important, since a photographer has to like his tools.

However, I like the feel of the RB. For what I've paid for my two bodies, all the lenses, the backs, it's a bargain and it does the job beautifully.
 

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I'm happy for you.

Interesting compare and contrast.
 

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I had one years ago and loved it...I moved on to RZ Pro II's, much faster to shoot with, but the
old RB and its lenses are awesome. 140mm is great...used to use it with the tilt/shift bellows for
portraits. Use it with a prism...I did get annoyed with having to cock the back separately.

Have fun!
Jason
 

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I love my RB! It can do everything but stealth, and do it very well. Interchangeable rotating backs, bellows focusing, great lenses, unsurpassed reliability, polaroid backs (!), leaf shutters, and an awesome viewfinder. And I *love* that it's all mechanical.

Unless you do street/stealth photography, or can't deal with the size/weight, they're perfect. I have my Olympus XAs for stealth and I can walk around with my RB, 3-4 lenses, 4 120 backs, 2 polaroid backs, filters/film/etc all day with a good backpack. (don't try it with a side-carry bag...ouch)
 

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Tilt-shift in an RB?

 

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Your post makes me glad, Theo. I suspect there are lots of gear that doesn't enjoy LeicaBlad status that deliver the goods day in, day out. I've marveled a many images from this platform on this site. 'Hope those on a humble budget are seeing this & paying attention. Thanks for posting.
 

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+1...Yet, the RB is so enjoyable to use.

I cannot say I've used another MF product for comparison, but I feel the same way about my ProSD unit. As a long time 4x5 user I do not feel the same connection with it that I do to my ProSD. I'm sure many have their own thoughts on what unit they prefer to use over the long haul.
 

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I've owned both an RZ and a Hasselblad. I prefer the focussing on the the RB/RZ's better. Turning a knob works better for me then spinning a collar around a lens. The larger focussing screen is nicer too.

On a tripod I preferred the RZ. Carrying around and shooting handheld I preferred the Hasselblad. The RB's are certainly a bargain in today's market.
 

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RB's and RZ's are nice outfits, but if I am going Medium Format on a tripod I really like my Fuji GX680 - it has everything a Mamiya has plus front movements and at current prices it is the same or less for a complete system.
 

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That is a good assessment of the RB67 vis-a-vis the Hasselblad. Use the camera that fits you the best.
 
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Tilt-shift in an RB?

There is a Mamiya 75mm perspective control lens that fits on the RB67 Pro SD and also the RZ67. They are also relatively inexpensive.

RB's and RZ's are nice outfits, but if I am going Medium Format on a tripod I really like my Fuji GX680 - it has everything a Mamiya has plus front movements and at current prices it is the same or less for a complete system.

The Fuji GX680's are - in the true sense of the word - awesome. I went so far as to get the GX680III brochure when they were new and almost went for a very nice outfit here on APUG last year. I talked myself out of it, thinking I really should use large format for that sort of thing. Rethinking it, if I saw a nice one today, in person, I'd buy it without hesitation.
 
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There is a Mamiya 75mm perspective control lens that fits on the RB67 Pro SD and also the RZ67. They are also relatively inexpensive.

Ahh..I knew there was one for the RZ but didn't know it fit the RB too. I'd want more than one focal length though.

the Fuji looks great but I couldn't justify 10 pounds for medium format over my Wista 45sp for several pounds less. Still I'd take one if they were being given away (and they almost are).
 

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The Mamiya RB 75mm tilt shift lens may actually only work with the RB-SD - not the RZ cameras.

And the RZ67 Shift/Tilt adapter is apparently only compatible with the RZ67 Pro II.
 

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You saw the two units for sale up in the Seattle area? 'Just did a quick check - looks like they're gone.
 

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As the OP said: "Bodies, lenses, and accessories are plentiful and inexpensive. It's not hard to find them in very good working condition." I got a clean, working, EX, RB67 Pro S, 90mm C lens, CdS Prism, NPC Polaroid back and a large (13 1/2" tall, 10 1/2" deep, 20 1/2" long) padded case on ebay for $37 plus $31 shipping...yup $68 total. Honest!

I also have an RB67 Pro, 127 lens, Waist level finder, and two 120 film backs, all purchased separately for a grand total of just over $200 with shipping included. Everything purchased on ebay and all in VG to EC. Everything was purchased over a 3 month period. Forgot to add: Auto Extension Tube #2.

Over the years I have ventured into large format (4x5) and medium format (Mamiya 645) and found 6x7 to be the perfect compromise.

Love the Mamiya's!! Heavy...but more fun per pound!!
 

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Theo Sulphate

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You saw the two units for sale up in the Seattle area? 'Just did a quick check - looks like they're gone.

I'm almost afraid to go to camera stores and swap meets. We are living in an unusual period where high quality professional film-era equipment is selling for a fraction of the original price - a consequence of digital imaging. The good side is that we've been able to buy stuff we'd never before dreamt of owning. The bad side is that we've lost films and papers and finding quality processing and printing is harder. Repair of some cameras is harder to obtain.

I think I prefer the film-only era: back then I had just a few medium priced cameras, but was very happy with the available films and processing.
 
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... I got a clean, working, EX, RB67 Pro S, 90mm C lens, CdS Prism, NPC Polaroid back and a large (13 1/2" tall, 10 1/2" deep, 20 1/2" long) padded case on ebay for $37 plus $31 shipping...yup $68 total. Honest!
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Win!!!
 

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I have one of the battery backs for my RB67. It winds the film automatically and turns it into a 1-cock camera. It's my favorite back.
 

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I just received my RB67, I have a test roll of Tri-x in it to check the light seals. I did order up a set of seals as the mirror damper is falling apart. I'm excited to get this re-sealed and running. I got it with the Sekor C 90mm F/3.8 lens.
 

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Enjoy your camera and shoot more film.
 

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you'll get to appreciate this camera once you get the hang of it.

i was out in the woods today shooting old trees with my fisheye. im about 2' from the tree n have the entire height in my prism.

as im setting up, an enthusiastic digital bird watcher walks up behind me and was very curious about my camera.

hahahahaha i took my RB off the tripod n the guy jumped back as if i had a death ray gun. i reset it n let him see the vf, he was blown away when he looked in the prism. he said it seemed so big n looked like it was in 3d.

we may be seeing him here looking for a camera soon.
 

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i was out in the woods today shooting old trees with my fisheye.

Hey Paul, good to see your post. I just got a fisheye two years ago now and I've had some wonderful results with it. What I really like about it is you can shoot straight flat on like a wide angle with little or no distortion. Or you can get a little crazy and start tilting things around for, well, a bit of fisheye type looking shots if you want to.
 
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