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UPDATE: Paypal HAD Pitney Bowes shipping built into their web site but no longer. Other options like shippo, pirateship & shipstation are out there as comments in this thread indicate.
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If you have a Paypal account you can ship via First Class from their site,

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At USPS.com one can select a Regional Box - 'A', B' or 'C'
Your local US PO may well not have these but such can be ordered on-line.

Use of such is about $5 less than the Medium & Large Flat Rate boxes.

Unfortunately Paypal does not have these an as selectable option
 
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Thank you that is good to know.
 

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These of course reference the USA.
There are also some advantages if you use PayPal invoices in Canada, as they have a deal with Canada Post as well.
 
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Unfortunately PP has abandoned the ability to ship. They were using Pitney Bowes.

I am now using Priate Ship
 

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Well, that didn't take long...

Is that Pirate Ship or Private Ship?
 

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Sounds a little too close to Pirate Ship, ha.

It's easy to open an online account w/ the post office and print your ow labels here in the U.S., and they're way cheaper than if you walked up to the counter. Why that is I don't know. eBay has a similar setup (Paypal and the post office, twins separated at birth) where their post office labels are cheaper than walk ups too. I just use my bathroom scale or estimate the weight, it works fine.

Most cities have a post office, somewhere, that has a machine where you can buy postage, print shipping labels, etc. Then you put your package in the drop box, and you're done. No waiting in lines, and these machines are inside the lobbies and usually accessible 24 hrs a day. Or, they'll come by and pick it up for free. For a bureaucratic system that most people hate, it has it's up sides.
 
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For a bureaucratic system that most people hate, it has it's up sides.

Despite spending the past several years making bad decisions (buy a brand new fleet of fuel-powered delivery trucks? In the 2020s??), they're still the least expensive way to ship small items within the USA, and about as fast as any competitively priced alternative.
 

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I use my USPS account and have the packages picked up if I don't feel like driving the two miles to the local P.O., and there's never a line. I used to live in a small town and only walked three blocks to the P.O. and never had to wait in line.
 

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Unfortunately PP has abandoned the ability to ship. They were using Pitney Bowes.

I am now using Priate Ship

Incorrect. Paypal now partners with Shipstation. Gives you the option of USPS or UPS. Just did this a couple of days ago.
 

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Paypal now partners with Shipstation. Gives you the option of USPS or UPS. Just did this a couple of days ago.

Nice!
 

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the trucks are built to be converted to electric vehicles once the technology is there...

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Do you have any documentation for that? Everything I've read from usps and Oshkosh has been generalized statements that are more marketing than engineering. This is what I read from the USPS: “Even if we were to roll out the door with an internal combustion engine in the vehicle, we have the opportunity, the way the vehicle is designed is to allow us at the end of the life of that engine to swap in a different drive train alternative”. That's far, far from being built to be converted.

These new trucks, running on gas, achieve a whopping 8.6 mpg with AC running, 14mpg without. Maybe not quite so bad if you assume a gas price of $2.19 per gallon as DeJoy and his USPS board cronies did. The use case for 90% of these trucks are perfectly suited to battery EV: short range, stop and go, idle overnight. Those in rural areas, especially in cold climates, would still need to be gas with today's battery technology.

Each could have been easily charged overnight on a 15amp 240v circuit - about half of what your household electric dryer requires. And do that during off-peak hours when electricity in most of the country is underutilized and cheaper. Yes, that would require a significant up front investment. But easily amortized over the 20 life of the truck. And easily "paid for" by the reduced maintenance and repair.

Here's an interesting tidbit. If the new trucks weighed 1 pound less, they'd have to meet a stricter fuel economy standard. 1 pound - quite a coincidence.
 

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These new trucks, running on gas, achieve a whopping 8.6 mpg with AC running, 14mpg without.

And this level of environmental "so there!" attitude is what I call "bad decisions". BTW, I disagree with electric trucks not being suitable for rural areas -- there are probably fewer than 5% of rural Postal routes that exceed 200 miles daily, and on a truck frame it's easy to specify an increased battery capacity and higher charge rate for those specific routes. Tesla sells a Model S that can beat most (all?) gasoline muscle cars in a quarter mile, and still has a range of up to 400 miles when driving like a family car -- and a Model 3 (costing less than the USPS paid for those trucks, despite being loaded with expensive lithium batteries) that can beat 90% of gasoline cars in that same quarter mile sprint and has similar range (in a smaller vehicle). Electric would probably save money over the life of the trucks in terms of maintenance and replacements, too -- Teslas in rental service, last I saw, at 300,000 miles needed almost nothing done; the only ones removed from service in the report I read were due to accident damage. Gasoline rental cars typically last 1/5 that long in service.

Battery technology isn't the limitation on range for a delivery truck, it's charge rate. If you can't replace the charge used in a day during overnight down time, you need to shell out for high-current charging -- but that's still only a one-time expenditure (say, 30-amp 240 V charging systems). Yes, upgrading electrical service and breaker boxes is a lot of money up front, but so is a fleet of trucks (and yes, electric trucks with the range for rural routes would be expensive). However, even if the rural route trucks were kept on gasoline for another ten years, just having the city and short rural routes on electric power would make a very large difference in the USPS carbon footprint.

Unfortunately for the environment, DeJoy and friends were Trump cronies and likely specifically chosen, in part, as climate deniers.
 

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Do you have any documentation for that? ....

I read an article that stated that what is in the plan and contract...

I'm not fan of our postmaster general, who was never a fan of the Post Office himself... one of his justifications for the gas vehicle is to upgrade to " a better, safer, air conditioned vehicles that the men and women of the PO deserve." So it seems he's gone from privatizing ASAP, to caring about people. 10% will be electric and as funds and technology improves can be converted to all electric vehicles by simply changing the engine to electric motor. As Mr. Qualls says he has never admitted to any of this climate change being anything but nature being nature - even now.

I could use up some of the few grey cells I have left, and maybe come up with the article, I'm selective about my sources and reporting.
 
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From what I read at the Paypal Forum shipstation is quite problematic doing things like charging a monthly fee.I contacted shipstation and was told yes there was a monthly fee but such was reduced for those signing up via Paypal.

Another option is shippo.com - they say they waive their fee if you ship less than 10 packages a month.
 
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I use my USPS account and have the packages picked up if I don't feel like driving the two miles to the local P.O., and there's never a line. I used to live in a small town and only walked three blocks to the P.O. and never had to wait in line.


I do as well but tehre is only Priority Mail option. I send lots of First Class which can not be done at the usps web site.
 

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I do as well but tehre is only Priority Mail option. I send lots of First Class which can not be done at the usps web site.
Yeah, we used to be able to do that without the Pitney-Bowes postage machine, but that changed a couple of years back.
 

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If you have the Regional A and B boxes, can you pay for the postage at the post office or does it have to be pre paid before you get there?
 

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From what I read at the Paypal Forum shipstation is quite problematic doing things like charging a monthly fee.I contacted shipstation and was told yes there was a monthly fee but such was reduced for those signing up via Paypal.

Another option is shippo.com - they say they waive their fee if you ship less than 10 packages a month.

I've shipped 3 times in the past month with Shipstation via paypal. Neither time was there any indication of a monthly charge. But, and this may have been why, I was paying from a paypal balance.
 

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I have never had nor heard of a monthly PayPal charge.
 

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If you have the Regional A and B boxes, can you pay for the postage at the post office or does it have to be pre paid before you get there?
You pay based on weight and destination with regional boxes, load the box, seal and label it, then toodle on down to the PO to pay. Generally the A box falls between the small and medium flat rate boxes price wise. Any one can open a UPS account and prepay for shipping, just have a fairly accurate scale or simply use flat rate packaging.
 

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You pay based on weight and destination with regional boxes, load the box, seal and label it, then toodle on down to the PO to pay. Generally the A box falls between the small and medium flat rate boxes price wise. Any one can open a UPS account and prepay for shipping, just have a fairly accurate scale or simply use flat rate packaging.

I assume you mean USPS, not UPS. This FAQ from the post office suggests you need to be a commercial shipper and have an online account.
 

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I use shippo.com for shipping dry plates. Have used them for 4 years, shipping dozens of packages around the world weekly. They link to my business accounts (FedEx, DHL, etc) and also offer a good discount themselves through their own shipping accounts with the carriers.

Easy to use.. straightforward workflow.
 
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Get an on-line account with USPS. I order stamps, shipping labels, etc., and they charge my credit card. You print out the prepaid form and tape it to your package. Give the package to your letter carrier to avoid going to the post office. Stamps are delivered to your mailbox in a couple of days. I think there's a one-dollar charge which is cheaper than gasoline to drive to the PO. You don;t have to worry about Covid either.
 
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