Post Your Van Dyke's

Tom Taylor · Jul 13, 2020

An untoned contact print (sun) from an 810 Delta 100 negative:

From the same negative but palladium-toned:

The subject is the Methodists church in Bodie and were taken with a 360mm lens or 480mm lens and printed on Bergger Cot 320 5 years ago.

Thomas

cliveh · Jul 13, 2020

awty · Jul 13, 2020

Piston Broke. by Paul Fitz, on Flickr
14 x 17 camera neg on a3 paper.

nmp · Jul 13, 2020

Tom Taylor said:
An untoned contact print (sun) from an 810 Delta 100 negative:

From the same negative but palladium-toned:

The subject is the Methodists church in Bodie and were taken with a 360mm lens or 480mm lens and printed on Bergger Cot 320 5 years ago.

Thomas

hmm....I would have thought the toned one would be darker/cooler than the un-toned one, in general. VDB behaves differently?

:Niranjan.

aldus_manutius · Jul 14, 2020

nmp said:
hmm....I would have thought the toned one would be darker/cooler than the un-toned one, in general. VDB behaves differently?

:Niranjan.

I was surprised by that, too. Also, the manner of change in the sky struck me as odd.

Overall, the contrast appears to have decreased... much flatter after toning.

awty · Jul 14, 2020

vandyke brown selenium toned by Paul Fitz, on Flickr
8 x 10 camera neg, bit of selenium.

Adam W · Jul 20, 2020

An old 35mm neg scanned and printed on cheap overhead transparency pages with a cheap all-in-one printer. Arches Aquarelle Hot Press paper.

Adam W · Jul 21, 2020

Tom Taylor · Jul 22, 2020

Here's another one from the same outing shot on 810 Delta 100, contact printed on Cot 320 and toned with palladium:

Remember, this is the 100% analogue section so if you "An old 35mm neg scanned and printed on cheap overhead transparency pages with a cheap all-in-one printer. Arches Aquarelle Hot Press paper." then it belongs in the Hybrid section and not in this one.

Have a nice day,

Thomas

Donald Qualls · Jul 22, 2020

Tom Taylor said:
Remember, this is the 100% analogue section so if you "An old 35mm neg scanned and printed on cheap overhead transparency pages with a cheap all-in-one printer. Arches Aquarelle Hot Press paper." then it belongs in the Hybrid section and not in this one.

On the other hand, if you made an enlarge interpositive and contact printed that to get an internegative and then printed that with van Dyke, you'd be good to go.

Adam W · Jul 22, 2020

Sorry about that folks. I didn't read carefully.

cliveh · Jul 22, 2020

Donald Qualls · Jul 22, 2020

Nice bookshelf, Clive. Nice print, too.

awty · Jul 22, 2020

Loving the VDB's

California Dreamin by Paul Fitz, on Flickr

14x17 pinhole picture. x ray negative contact print on paper with Vandyke Brown emulsion.

revdoc · Jul 23, 2020

From a Rollei IR neg, enlarged onto Arista Ortho Litho film and printed on Bergger Cot160. The scanner removed most of the brown.

ulrauko · Jul 23, 2020

vdb, 4x5 delta 100 neg, dev'd in pyro-350, selenium toned

awty · Jul 23, 2020

Steve by Paul Fitz, on Flickr

8 x 10 f250 pinhole camera, arista 100, pyrocat, platinum rag, gold tone.

Vandyke Brown, Gold leaf. by Paul Fitz, on Flickr

same neg contact print on baking paper backed with fake gold leaf.

cliveh · Jul 23, 2020

fgorga · Jul 23, 2020

awty said:
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Vandyke Brown, Gold leaf. by Paul Fitz, on Flickr

same neg contact print on baking paper backed with fake gold leaf.

Paul

Wonderful prints!

I have been experimenting with making cyanotypes on vellum and backing them with (imitation) gold leaf ala Dan Burkholder. Thus I am very interested in the details of your process. So I hope that you do not mind me peppering you with questions!

Are you using the typical non-stick parchment paper used by bakers? If so, bleached or unbleached? Do you have to treat the paper to get it to absorb sensitizer? Are you varnishing the print after exposure to increase transparency?

I have made some nice cyanotypes on vellum but it is not transparent enough to allow the metal to show well. I have tried the vellum the Burkholders sell for their process, but am still working on getting a good cyanotype print with it. I'm using digital negatives and need to optimize the curve. This is a long slow process given all the steps involved. I've also had issues with the paper buckling and not flattening back down well.

I've made some nice inkjet prints on vellum backed with gold or copper, but have not tried to show them on the web because the scans don't do them justice.

Regards,

awty · Jul 23, 2020

fgorga said:
Paul

Wonderful prints!

I have been experimenting with making cyanotypes on vellum and backing them with (imitation) gold leaf ala Dan Burkholder. Thus I am very interested in the details of your process. So I hope that you do not mind me peppering you with questions!

Are you using the typical non-stick parchment paper used by bakers? If so, bleached or unbleached? Do you have to treat the paper to get it to absorb sensitizer? Are you varnishing the print after exposure to increase transparency?

I have made some nice cyanotypes on vellum but it is not transparent enough to allow the metal to show well. I have tried the vellum the Burkholders sell for their process, but am still working on getting a good cyanotype print with it. I'm using digital negatives and need to optimize the curve. This is a long slow process given all the steps involved. I've also had issues with the paper buckling and not flattening back down well.

I've made some nice inkjet prints on vellum backed with gold or copper, but have not tried to show them on the web because the scans don't do them justice.

Regards,

Hi Frank. Its been about 18 mths since I experimented with the process and I was constantly changing methods.
I had one baking paper that would hold most of the emulsion during washing, its very flimsy and still needed to over expose, have no idea what paper it was, just what I found in the wraps draw.I didnt have any luck with any of the tracing paper I tried. Someone gave me a piece of the correct paper, which is stronger and less crinkly, but also less transparent.
I tried, varnish, epoxy, shellac and anything else I could find lying around. I bought a bottle of sizing glue, but its still in the same packet.
Was going to experiment this year, but struggling with motivation. Last weekend I found a few I earlier prints I discarded and they dont look too bad, maybe you can motivate me to try again.
I washed my prints by placing them on a plastic cutting board and gently washing under a shower nozzle, really easy to tare when wet.
Think the best method once you have a print on the paper, is to glue the gilding with the correct glue, then varnish over the top, then dry and use a iron or print flattener.
They are really hard to show on the internet, so need to give some dispensation. I love how the light plays with them.

awty · Jul 23, 2020

cliveh said:
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Gee, that a little one. The smallest I've used is 4x5, but I have some wee little antique contact print frames, I could us for smaller.

cliveh · Jul 23, 2020

awty said:
Gee, that a little one. The smallest I've used is 4x5, but I have some wee little antique contact print frames, I could us for smaller.

As far as I can remember, the original was taken on 35 mm, but then duplicated onto same size otho film and then enlarged onto multiple large format ortho and then contact printed as a Van Dyke.

awty · Jul 23, 2020

cliveh said:
As far as I can remember, the original was taken on 35 mm, but then duplicated onto same size otho film and then enlarged onto multiple large format ortho and then contact printed as a Van Dyke.

That makes more sense, just that I have a very small contact printer and thought about using it for some very small prints.

Donald Qualls · Jul 24, 2020

Not entirely impractical. Originally, 127 was a contact print format, and full frame is about the same size as 6x4.5, which is about the same size as Instax Mini. Now, 127 half frame (roughly same as 828, barely bigger than 35mm 24x36) is a little small for comfortable print viewing, but the old i-Zone instant cameras gave a print almost exactly that size).

awty · Jul 24, 2020

Donald Qualls said:
Not entirely impractical. Originally, 127 was a contact print format, and full frame is about the same size as 6x4.5, which is about the same size as Instax Mini. Now, 127 half frame (roughly same as 828, barely bigger than 35mm 24x36) is a little small for comfortable print viewing, but the old i-Zone instant cameras gave a print almost exactly that size).

This is 65 x 45, can make my own mini VDB's
Have a couple of quarter plates and a half plate as well.

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