Possible New Version of Harman Phoenix Coming Soon?

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Filmstore Prague teased this on their Instagram:



Figured I'd share given how members here like to speculate. So what do you think? A new (improved?) version of Phoenix with an orange mask and better color reproduction? or maybe another film like Harman Red but with a blue mask?

It wouldn't be the first time the release of a new Harman product was leaked early, as with Kentmere 200 most recently.
 

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well, I don't think they'd use the name Phoenix for a film that does not attempt to correctly reproduce color. Maybe orange mask, maybe not, I'd just assume its the second iteration of their work on Phoenix.
 

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Nothing yet on Harman's Instagram page but the company who has "leaked" this is reputable.

Assuming it's true, and it seems better than 50% that it is true....it's going to be an improved C41 colour neg film. Hopefully at least with the orange mask. I wonder about the significance of the blue box, is that simply to distinguish Phoenix and Phoenix II or is it hinting at cooler colours (or perhaps time travel properties).

Time will tell. I'm certainly curious.
 

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It's not on their Insta now, but if that was a "story" it would disappear after a few hours. Could well be a cheeky tease that is genuine but not approved by Harman. Best guess is that Harman will tease the film in the coming days?
 

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Agulliver said:
Could well be a cheeky tease that is genuine but not approved by Harman.
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Or just an update that was supposed to be scheduled, but they forgot to schedule it and instead insta-published. Happens all the time.

Anyway...I like the box. The claw marks making the 'II' are neat. Nice job. Let's see what's inside.
 

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Yes it could be a scheduling mistake. The imagery looks genuine and the retailer appears to be respectable so I can't see them posting dishonestly in some attempt to gain interest in their business. I wonder if Harman will tease something this weekend? though it's not long since they launched Red in 120, with the summer upon us now would be a great time to launch an updated Phoenix.
 

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Agulliver said:
I wonder about the significance of the blue box, is that simply to distinguish Phoenix and Phoenix II or is it hinting at cooler colours (or perhaps time travel properties).
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Or simply hinting at it being a "cool" film in the very modern sense of the word "cool"e.g. you might be a "cool" guy even in the mini heatwave we have coming this weekend

I was never "cool", not even in the notorious winter of 1962/3

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I was thinking it might actually be Phoenix Eleven where it would take pictures of the upside-down, then I realized that would only be available in sheet film for view cameras.
 

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abruzzi said:
I was thinking it might actually be Phoenix Eleven where it would take pictures of the upside-down, then I realized that would only be available in sheet film for view cameras.
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I've been thinking about this. I don't get it. Btw, I never watched Stranger Things and my understanding of it is limited to the content of the 1st paragraph of the Wikipedia page.
 
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dcy said:
I've been thinking about this. I don't get it. Btw, I never watched Stranger Things and my understanding of it is limited to the context of the 1st paragraph of the Wikipedia page.
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OT, but "11" is the name of the protagonist, the evil dimension is called "the upside-down" and is a dark reflection of our world, and lenses project their image upside-down, but only on view cameras do you use that upside-down image to compose your shot. Sorry, I realized it was a pretty obtuse joke.
 
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That appears to be a normal box of Phoenix where the image has been inverted, and does not correspond to the package design shown in the first post.
 
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