Perfect!
Even simpler is to take the exposure for the shadow which has detail that you want, put it in Zone 2, Zone 3 or Zone 4 the adjust the overall exposure by increasing 3-, 2- or 1-f/stop. The adjust the exposure for any filter factor. Develop normally. Voilà the Zone System exposure.
Ansel Adams called that procedure, "placing an element on a zone."
As soon as you do so, you have visualized (previsualized) what the print will look like, meaning that you have decided what shade of gray that element will be.
A warning: zone 2 doesn't show much detail. For full detail, place a metered shadow on zone 3 (by reducing exposure 2 stops).
I rarely use Zone 2. I experimented with it when I first started playing with the Zone System but I found it not all that useful. If I use the Zone System I will use Zone 3 more often then Zone 4.
I'm still a relative newbie to printing. But a few minutes ago, I printed a negative by metering two important spots on the easel and placing them on zone 5 (shaded skin) and zone 7.5 (sun-lit skin). That was my visualization of the print. The controller computed LED-powers based on those two zone-placements, and the print looks fine, just as I visualized it. I'm getting the hang of proper visualization. Based on my past failures, I know it's harder than it sounds. Or maybe I'm a slow learner.
Ansel Adams called that procedure, "placing an element on a zone."
As soon as you do so, you have visualized (previsualized) what the print will look like, meaning that you have decided what shade of gray that element will be.
A warning: zone 2 doesn't show much detail. For full detail, place a metered shadow on zone 3 (by reducing exposure 2 stops).
Ansel was a LF shooter, so he had plenty of time to pre-visualize a shot. He also used to sit there all darned day until things looked like he wanted.
Don’t pre-visualize, just visualize.
I have no idea what the “pre” is about?
Visualize before you visualize?
Visualize should be enough.
Pre-visualising just confuses things. Pre-visualise is just a pommy word for visualisation. You visualise... then there may be some post visualising. How many times did we change what we initially visualised, in post? It's the same when I'm drawing or painting.
Is it really got to be complicated? I think the authors of the books just needed something to write about.
Compose your shot, work out what depth of field you want, check your light meter adjust the shutter speed, take the shot, dont shake the camera if you want a sharp picture. Develop as per manufacturer recommendation.
Its in the darkroom where you make the actual picture and that requires a lot of experience to do well.
Irregardless, people will continue to make this same mistake.
Its in the darkroom where you make the actual picture and that requires a lot of experience to do well.
Don't think AA used previsualization...that's White.
previsualize = visualize for all practical purposes.
In the way I work -- this is not at all true. I do not make pictures...I make prints that have pictures (images) on them that are equally the result of the work done outside the darkroom and inside the darkroom.
YMMD
Yes, Adams never pre-visualised anything, he only used the term 'visualisation'. It was indeed Minor White that used pre-visualisation and I guess we all know what he meant even though it doesn't make logical sense since how can you pre-visualise what you visualise? Maybe a case of too much meditation or substances.
When I took White's summer program in the 60s I had read Adams and asked White what was the difference, from what I recall Pre Visualizing was prior to releasing the shutter, then the final print was visualized in the darkroom and post darkroom, toning. Not sure why he did not make that clear in his book. He might have given a different explanation to others as well.
AA wrote about shooting with Edward Weston, AA was using his zone system, EW would look at his Weston meter, mutter a bit then add 3 stops. What ever process EW used he worked for him. Remember that the majority of EW's work was contacted printed, his negatives would look very different from those of AA who projection printed with a diffusion enlarger.
Over the years the zone system got a bad rep, those who used the zone seemed to spend more time plotting curves than taking pictures, zone folks had their own special language, and seemed to have forgot that AA developed to enhance the creative process not to become a slave to the process. Other myths is that the zone system produced a perfect negative. In his book about the making of some his better know works AA gave the number of burns and dodges it took make "Storm Clearing." The negative was not perfect, it was workable.
Most photogpghers did not and do come from a painting background. I did not, I had to learn what painters seem to possess, the ability to see a composed image, without thinking about it. Shooting a news story, no issue, the action, the event, the person, the place or thing is the subject, shooting on the fly just get it in focus and in the frame, and with luck get the right moment. My wife can pick up a camera, look though the viewfinder and see the composition of the frame without thinking about it. She is a trained artist who before going to work as a journalist worked as a commercial artist. I have to think about it.
The 3 books were not about the Zone, book 1 was about cameras and lens, book 2 the Negative was about the Zone and Viszualtion while book 3 The Print discussed how turn the negative based on the ZS into a print, applies to working any negative not just a negative derived from the ZS.
Your right, once done it should be smooth sailing, but there were a number of Zone folks who seemed to get wrapped up in the plotting, different films different developers. In the late 80s after I left the wires a friend invited me to a local camera club meeting, the presentation was from a member who had tested TriX and HP5 with a bunch of different developers, more than 5 fewer than 10. Only had test prints, when asked which one he was going to use the said he needed to do more testing. I test films, new to me, or if I stumbled across a developer I want to try, not often. Without a densitometer, I shoot a crippled ring around looking for best Zone 3 shadows, then adjust the development time for zone VII highlights, then I'm done. With the cost of film going up I don't plan on testing additional films, will stick with Tmax 400, and Foma 400. I was planning on testing Catlabs new 320+ pro, but decided to skip the cost and buy more Tmax 400.
The whole point of Adams was to visualise the print prior to pressing the shutter
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