although I shoot on film and print on Platinum, from time to time I do use negatives that are ... ahem ... not analogue ...
- seek out fine pt/pd prints that you can view up close so you can see what is possible and have a context for evaluating your own workThanks, I would really appreciate that. I do have a dirty secret though, in that although I shoot on film and print on Platinum, from time to time I do use negatives that are ... ahem ... not analogue ...
Plus one on Ian.you wanted input and Ian who has written the book so to say has offered to look at some of your prints and give advise I recommend that you take him up on it I know I would. no one cares if you used digital neg or not
Mitch
I have printed and taught the process since the 1960's and have never been hung up on having a maximum black in every image. As far as that is concerned, I don't always have a paper white either. Each image has it's own needs in this area. If the prints are pleasing to you, forget the comments of others in this regard and concentrate your mental and physical energies on organization of the image itself. When you see a need for more density, you will do it.
The density range of the image begins with the negative, as it does with all processes. If the negative is lacking in range there is no practical way to get it in the print consistently. If I viewed a few of your negatives I could rather quickly advise you on your needs. It begins with film choice, then exposure and development. If any of these are lacking, so too will probably be the DR in the print.
If you don't have it get a copy of "The New Platinum Print", by Sullivan and Weese. It is not the only good text,but it is perhaps the most easily understood complete discussion of the process. It is available from Bostick& Sullivan in Santa Fe. http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/
Good luck and enjoy the process.
Jim
What is ARPS?The next time you submit to ARPS, submit a platinum print of a Stouffers step tablet, Then you can argue contrast with them
It's one of three levels of distinctions or honors bestowed by the Royal Photographic Society in England. The ARPS is the second of three tiers (Licentiate, Associate, and Fellow). The Fellow is regarded in some circles as the equivalent of an advanced degree for teaching purposes.What is ARPS?
Ahh - is this like all the PPA and PPOC master photographers that wear ribbons on their chest.. I try to avoid these people as all costs.
I'm looking for some thoughts people might have.
I've been making pictures with film since my dad set up a darkroom in our bathroom when I was 12. I went the usual route via scanning negatives and inkjet printing and a decade or so ago picked up an LRPS along the way (more of which later). After emigrating to NZ three years ago I decided to move properly to Platinum printing after having dabbled some years ago, and set up a room for the purpose.
I set things up, sourced paper and have a lot of support from a well-established Platinum printer in the US (including tutoring via Skype). I've printed on Stonehenge and Cranes brushed with Oxalic acid, moved from rods to the fabled magic brush, and played with Na2 and good old solutions 1 and 2. I've struggled with weak blacks and muddy highlights and finally, after many many sheets of paper and copious amounts of precious metals, settling on Platine, a humidifier and hygrometer, I get prints that consistently have black blacks and white whites (without becoming flat) and a smooth tonal range in-between. They may not be great photographs, but technically they basically work and I like them (so does my partner, but she may be biased). But they are Platinum prints, so put them alongside my old inkjets they are softer tonally and appear to lack a degree of contrast (even though the blacks are definitely black and the whites definitely white - at least as white as the paper goes).
So against my better judgement I put 15 prints in for an ARPS - the feedback, all twenty words or so, was basically not enough contrast and I was advised to put the prints under the UV light longer. I did complain, but the reply told me they were experts and they'd never heard of me so I was wrong.
I've previously had issues with the RPS approach of "we're experts, we were appointed by experts which makes us experts, and if your pictures don't look like ours they aren't good", but was persuaded to persevere with the LRPS a decade or so ago and managed to swallow my arrogance and produce pictures they liked.
The problem I have is this. I don't really know how to get reliable input. I don't think feedback suggesting, essentially, that my prints don't have enough contrast will help, and suggesting more time under UV as a "solution" really is nonsense. I also like my pictures - I'm on a journey and want to develop (excuse the pun) but I prefer the work I do now to anything I've done in my 30-odd years as a photographer. It may still be rubbish, I know that, but I do have strong ideas about what I think I want my pictures to be. The photographer I've been getting advice from suggested I should rely on my own judgement and the relationship between inkjet/silver to platinum is like oil painting is to watercolour, a totally different aesthetic. I can't help feeling a bit bruised by the dismissive RPS folk though and I think I really need some good input, but I really don't know where best to go.
Anyway, if anyone has read to the end of this I really would welcome thoughts)
It is what the angels play if they lived in the east end of London while on the earthWhat is ARPS?
Ahh good one pentaxuser.It is what the angels play if they lived in the east end of London while on the earth
pentaxuser
Are you talking about David Chow btw, I was working on something with him and sadly he left us.Not entirely sure what the OP is asking here, but in the case of increasing Dmax if you ever wanted to there are a few ways.
The gum over platinum outlined above, using fumed silica and I. Penn's multi layered platinum technique.
There was a member here from the UK no longer with us sadly who experimented with this technique. His results were the best I have ever seen, although can be very costly!
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