Plate holders for Icarette 500/2 and 551/2

Romanko · May 31, 2023

I am trying to find 6.5 x 9 cm plate holders for my Zeiss Ikon Icarette 500/2 and 551/2. Does anyone know if Voigtländer Avus holders fit my cameras? I have several 9x12 cm folding cameras and know that holders from different manufacturers are not always interchangeable despite all being Normalfaltz.
What is the Zeiss catalogue number (typ) for 6.5 x 9 cm holders?
Any suggestions on where I can get the original Zeiss holders (apart from popular auction sites that I am already monitoring)?
Which model/makes are compatible with Zeiss?

JensH · May 31, 2023

Romanko said:
I am trying to find 6.5 x 9 cm plate holders for my Zeiss Ikon Icarette 500/2 and 551/2. Does anyone know if Voigtländer Avus holders fit my cameras? I have several 9x12 cm folding cameras and know that holders from different manufacturers are not always interchangeable despite all being Normalfaltz.
What is the Zeiss catalogue number (typ) for 6.5 x 9 cm holders?
Any suggestions on where I can get the original Zeiss holders (apart from popular auction sites that I am already monitoring)?
Which model/makes are compatible with Zeiss?

Hi,

Type 665/3 should work...
See page 19 of

https://www.cameramanuals.org/booklets/zeiss_catalog_1931_ger-2.pdf

I would also expect some Ica holders to fit...

Can't tell you about the Voigtländer holders... even my Zeiss Ikon 726/3 6.5 x 9 cm holders wouldn't help you as they are "Anlegekassetten" / pop up holders.

Best
Jens

Romanko · Jun 1, 2023

Jens Hallfeldt said:
Type 665/3 should work

Thank you for the link to the catalogue. I'll try to find Zeiss 665/3 holders or older ICA models. It is a bit of a gamble with other makes and models. I wish they had more standardization back then.

Romanko · Jun 1, 2023

I also found the Tourist camera made in the USSR in the late 30s.

Turist - Camera-wiki.org - The free camera encyclopedia

camera-wiki.org

The plate holders for this camera are readily available (at least in Europe).

Can anyone confirm that these holders are compatible with the Icarettes?

Ron (Netherlands) · Jun 3, 2023

Here's an Ica-version with ICA-plateholders:

Romanko · Jun 4, 2023

Ron (Netherlands) said:
Here's an Ica-version with ICA-plateholders

Thank you for the photos. This would be an earlier model of the camera produced before ICA merged into Zeiss Ikon. The body is almost identical apart from the shape of the folding viewfinder. My Icarette 551/2 has a rim-set Compur shutter while an older type 500/2 has a dial-set model.

I bought a set of holders including the original Zeiss Ikon type 665/3, Voigtländer, Nagel and one unmarked. Hopefully, they'll all fit the camera. I'll post an update when I get them.

Romanko · Jun 15, 2023

Nagel holders do not fit the Icarette, their flanges are too thick. Voigtländer and the unmarked holder did fit the camera but I did not test these combinations for light leaks. Zeiss holders have a cut that matches the latch on the camera. The latch prevents from pulling the holder out of the camera while removing the dark slide.

My recommendation is to get the original holders (Zeiss Ikon type 665/3).

Ron (Netherlands) · Jun 16, 2023

good recommendation indeed; with my Zeiss and Ica folding camera's I could only match original Zeiss and Ica holders i.e. the 'double' ones:

9x12 Plate holders 1

I'm posting dimensions again in the hopes someone has a plate holder or two in the size I need. The plate holder has a rectangular bump that sticks out in the back of the camera. It is 10cm wide or 3 7/8 inches wide by 16cm long or just over 6 1/4 inches long. That is plus draw slide handle and...

www.photrio.com

Plate holders for Icarette 500/2 and 551/2

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