Pink Backing Paper 620 film

Agawa Canyon

A
Agawa Canyon

  • 2
  • 1
  • 20
Spin-in-in-in

D
Spin-in-in-in

  • 0
  • 0
  • 18
Frank Dean,  Blacksmith

A
Frank Dean, Blacksmith

  • 13
  • 7
  • 196
Woman wearing shades.

Woman wearing shades.

  • 1
  • 1
  • 142

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
198,860
Messages
2,782,036
Members
99,733
Latest member
dlevans59
Recent bookmarks
0

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,965
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
Does anyone have any experience with this (found) 620 film, and can they identify it?

P4120004 (2).jpg P4120006 (2).jpg
Any suggestions as to developing times?
This thread suggests (in post 11) it is an Italian Geveart film: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/who-makes-all-the-films-anyway.4630/#post-60798
 

pentaxuser

Member
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
19,959
Location
Daventry, No
Format
35mm
Best of luck with this one, Matt. It reminds me of the colour of 620 Verichrome Pan I once tried to develop. If it is found stuff and the contents are not yours and unknown then there might be a case for using the thread we had recently about determining the development time.

Dismal Jimmy who resides in my brain says that the negatives may be "shot" but unless someone can identify it for sure and there would seem to be nothing to go on in order to do this, then the above might be the best bet. Alternatively there is always the "Bert Hardy"( U.K. photo-journalist of the 1940s/50s) method of stand development overnight.

Let us know how you get on with development.

pentaxuser
 

macfred

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 6, 2014
Messages
3,839
Location
Germany
Format
Multi Format
I found several rolls in my father-in-law's house - alll were exposed, some in -probably- original package. I don't process those.
Package says OGAPAN Panchromatisch / Panchromatique Antihalo 40 ASA Film - Holzspule ( = wooden spool) OGA Germany Obergassner, KG München.
Exp.date is June 1975.

img543.jpg
 

AgX

Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2007
Messages
29,973
Location
Germany
Format
Multi Format
I found several rolls in my father-in-law's house - alll were exposed, some in -probably- original package. I don't process those.
Package says OGAPAN Panchromatisch / Panchromatique Antihalo 40 ASA Film - Holzspule ( = wooden spool) OGA Germany Obergassner, KG München.
Exp.date is June 1975.

To avoid misunderstandings:
Obergassner was no manufacturer but a retailer/wholesaler, who got manufacturers to brand their products as OGA for him. Ogapan films were back once were stated to have been made in the USA. (But other sources are possible too.)
 

railwayman3

Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2008
Messages
2,816
Format
35mm
I have a box of "Ogachrome" slides taken by my late Father in 1973 in Germany and I'm assuming he bought the film there.......the appearance , slide mounts and box look a lot like rebadged Agfacolor.
 

cmacd123

Subscriber
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,312
Location
Stittsville, Ontario
Format
35mm
a lot of the brands used in the 60s used Pink paper. since no brand is shown, I wonder if it is something like 3m Dynapan, (made by ferrania) Agfa also used a pink paper.
 
OP
OP
MattKing

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,965
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
a lot of the brands used in the 60s used Pink paper. since no brand is shown, I wonder if it is something like 3m Dynapan, (made by ferrania) Agfa also used a pink paper.
Charles:
Thank you for the info - even if it muddied the waters even more!
 

darkroommike

Subscriber
Joined
Mar 22, 2007
Messages
1,726
Location
Iowa
Format
Multi Format
As I recall, many films used pink tails for panchromatic films and green tails for ortho films when the pan films first came out.
 
OP
OP
MattKing

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,965
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
Any thoughts about the significance of the fact that the word "exposed" is printed in the four languages that are used?
 

Arklatexian

Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,777
Location
Shreveport,
Format
Multi Format
Sounds odd. Gevaert was Belgian.
I do remember advertisements for Agfa/Gevaert at one time and was told that, during that period, everything was made in Germany. I believe either Agfa bought Gevaert or they combined. I will ask an old friend in Belgium who worked in photography in those days and before and lives in Belgium. Or better yet, I'll ask "Wikipedia". I did and if anyone is interested look-up Agfa/Gevaert in Wikkipedia. It is too "involved" to be discussed here......Regards!
 
Last edited:

cmacd123

Subscriber
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,312
Location
Stittsville, Ontario
Format
35mm
Charles:
Thank you for the info - even if it muddied the waters even more!

almost all films DID have a brand on the paper or tail if they were sold under the makers name. only items sold as "private lebel" (or films who sell more private label than their own brand) would tend to use "generic" labels. (Foma does but I suspect that there private label business is at least as good as their name brand business.)
 

darkroommike

Subscriber
Joined
Mar 22, 2007
Messages
1,726
Location
Iowa
Format
Multi Format
Any thoughts about the significance of the fact that the word "exposed" is printed in the four languages that are used?
Yes, it means the film was exposed. Sorry. It suggests to me the film was "continental" in origin rather than the USA or England, more than that? Who knows? Private label, medium speed.
 

gordrob

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 29, 2005
Messages
1,009
Location
Western Cana
Format
Multi Format
I found these two boxes of 620 film at the back of the fridge. REX for Rexall Drugs here in Canada. Made by Foma as the house brand of film for Rexall. The film came hand wrapped in tin foil.
Dated June of 1967. Instruction sheets are printed in Czechoslovakia.







Rex1.jpg
Rex2.jpg
 

pentaxuser

Member
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
19,959
Location
Daventry, No
Format
35mm
Let us know what conclusions, if any, you reached, Matt and how you developed it and what the results were. My own lone experience with an Agfa Isolette that contained some exposed film from 40 years before was that the negs were in remarkable condition when developed. The camera had been found in a drawer when the brother cleared his deceased brother's house of items. I think that the film was Verichrome Pan. How do I know the film was exposed 40 years before, you may ask. Well it was given to me by someone whose brother had died in the late 1990s and he authenticated pics of his brother as a young man and if I recall there was a car in it that had tied it to the late 1950s

Thanks

pentaxuser
 
OP
OP
MattKing

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,965
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
My conclusion, so far, is that I best just guess.
There will be some education involved in the guess, but nothing conclusive.
I shall report.
 
OP
OP
MattKing

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,965
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
So we have a result.
I developed the film in replenished X-Tol along with my second to last 120 roll of Kodak Plus-X.
The Plus-X was exposed in flat lighting, so I bumped up my usual developing time by about 2/3 of a grade.
After loading the reel into the tank I examined the backing paper. Other than the frame numbers, the only additional information printed thereon was the words, in English, "START" and "EXPOSED".
There is no edge printing or numbers on the film, there is a fair bit of fog, and there are images too!
The negatives are also extremely curled, and that really gets in the way of both making a contact proof sheet and scanning the individual negatives. In a couple of cases, the edges of the negatives will not flatten out!
Here is one negative scan, and a scan of the contact proof sheet. Both have been adjusted digitally to increase visibility:
02-donkey-2019-04-28-found film-res.jpg
contact proof-2019-04-28-found film-res.jpg
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom