Piezography inks

[lenslens]

Which piezography inkset do people use for making digital negatives. Black & white, Sepia or Selenium. Does it make a difference? My intuition tells me to go with the neutral set. Any comments or suggestions, or recommendations from users would be welcome.

Thanks,

Len

 

[donbga]

Which piezography inkset do people use for making digital negatives. Black & white, Sepia or Selenium. Does it make a difference? My intuition tells me to go with the neutral set. Any comments or suggestions, or recommendations from users would be welcome.

Thanks,

Len

Len,

Some people have reported having some issues with the piezography inks not adhereing to substrates for negatives. I'm sorry I can't recall which inksets those are but apparently it is an issue. Sorry I can't share more specifics. I had similar problems with MIS quad tone inks and Pictorico.

Don Bryant

 

[lenslens]

Thanks Don,

I had better do more research before committing to that route... Hopefully some others will also comment.

Len

 

[Ben Altman]

Len,

Some people have reported having some issues with the piezography inks not adhereing to substrates for negatives. I'm sorry I can't recall which inksets those are but apparently it is an issue. Sorry I can't share more specifics. I had similar problems with MIS quad tone inks and Pictorico.

Don Bryant

I tried the Sepia on Pictorico - very scratch-prone, basically unusable.

Ben

 

[JohnVito]

Piezotone inks are pigment inks used on matte fine art paper. The inks don't adhere well to luster, semi-matte or glossy surfaces.

 

[sanking]

Piezotone inks are pigment inks used on matte fine art paper. The inks don't adhere well to luster, semi-matte or glossy surfaces.

That is my experience as well. I experimented briefly with a Cone K7 pigment set for the Epson 2200 and although I loved the results on matte papers the inks did not adhere as well to the OHP substrates I use for digital negatives as do the Epson inks.

Sandy King

 

[lenslens]

Why Dont Jon Cones Quadtone Inks Absorb into Pictorico OHP Film?

I went the route of getting an Epson 1160 with the Piezography system from Jon Cone, hoping for great quality Pictorico OHP negs. Unfortunately, the ink doesn't adhere to this base well. How do you protect the negative on this material? Some have used lacquer spray, others have used thin Mylar sheets. What have you used with success on this?

Both. The .002" Mylar (available at art supply stores) works well but can abrade the pigment image if the negative/Mylar sandwich isn't handled carefully. I know because I've transported some such negs around the country and have seen them damaged from the handling. For in-studio use, where we store and handle negatives much more gently, it shouldn't be a problem to attach the Mylar to the negative with tape.

I now spray my Cone quadtone negatives. My best resultsmost even spray, fastest drying time and lowest stink factorhave been with the Clear Acrylic Matte Coating from Crafts, Etc. I found this spray at our local Hobby Lobby. The McDonaldss Sureguard Lustre spray works well also. The matte might be even better but I haven't tried it yet. A Krylon clear matte acrylic (#1312) works well.

Some users report good results with a gloss spray. I favor the matte because the micro-texture provides canals through which air can escape when the negative is against another smooth surface (like the .002" Mylar) in the vacuum frame.

Quoted directly from danburkholder.com

Many thanks for the comments, I don't think I will go down this route.