Photokina 2006

[Helen B]

Did anyone see the Horseman 3D? The info on the web suggests that it has a rather short stereo base (34 mm, vs the approx 70 mm of the Realist, Wirgin etc). I'd love to see results from the Horseman because I would like to replace my Realist. Of course I've also considered replacing my Wirgin, but I think that would be more difficult.

Richard Dischler, head of US sales for Direct Source Marketing. “In addition, this is the first 3D camera that has been built from scratch and not had 3D added on to an existing system.” Hmm. Revisionism?

Best,
Helen

 

[Jim Chinn]

Well thanks for the info. In any of the photo mags we would be lucky to get more then a paragraph about any new traditional products.

 

[Christian Kolinski]

Did anyone see the Horseman 3D? The info on the web suggests that it has a rather short stereo base (34 mm, vs the approx 70 mm of the Realist, Wirgin etc).

Hm. Wasn't that the modyfied X-PAN? (Okay, same body...)
Excelent (clear, contrasty) rangefinder, seems rather solid, not too heavy, not too light, despite it's size easy to handle, AE (aparture prio IIRC). Aparture ring is a bit small IMHO. Very quiet (as much as you can tell in a noisy envrionment as Photokina), even the film advance (motor) wasn't too loud.

I'd love to see results from the Horseman because I would like to replace my Realist. Of course I've also considered replacing my Wirgin, but I think that would be more difficult.

Due to the small stereo base (much smaler than the human eyes) the result look a bit strange.

There were plenty of examples at Photokina (they seem to have fittig slide-mounts and viewer) which showed good if not (on some) extreme stereo-effect.

All together: a very nice camera if you're into Stereo... I'm not, so not on my "wanna have" list

 

[Christopher Nisperos]

we went every 2 years to the kina,

this year it was the worst year.
A lot of shouting around, some persons were listening to a photoshop session (of course all in german), and 15 meters behind them another one was shouting about his product. Looked like a chicken farm.

Besides that it becomes more and more a PC dumpstore than a photo related something.

So probably this was the last year...

Willie Jan, Geduldig ben! I know what you mean about the circus-like atmosphere you can sometimes run into at the kina (and other photo conventions!), but it was the same when analog products were king, remember? About Germans speaking German in Germany, well ... international show or not, I give leeway here. Maybe the German subsidiary of Photoshop targeted their local market. Maybe they did the presention in English too, and you passed at the wrong moment? Anyway —and afterall—, I believe that on perhaps 98% of the stands (this year, even China's Lucky Films), there are English-speaking personnel.

My gut feeling is in fact the opposite of your impression: I feel a slight up-turn in favor of analog products. OK, sure... digital products own the terrain, but if you consider that —here and there— you've got a new twin-lens reflex camera, a new imitation Leica M3-type camera and lenses, a brand new type of VC printing head, a brand new type of FB print washer, traditional enlargers (and big ones!) still being made, ... and so on, and so on... well, it's not exactly a drought.

Plus, don't forget that Photokina is not just about equipment. It's also one of the most important photography exhibitions in the world. If I'm not mistaken, the photographs culled by the late Fritz Gruber from the Photokina exhibitions over the years are a pillar of the collection of the Ludwig Museum which is, in turn, the source of many of the photographs in the bible-sized tome published by Tashen, entitled "Photography in the 20th Century".. or something like that. It's rarely mentioned that many people come to Photokina mainly to see the exhibitions!

Hence*, hang-in there. Come back to Photokina in 2008. Who knows? You might see wooden view cameras again —demo'd by quiet-talking salesmen!.


.*hello, grammar cop!

 

[blaze-on]

Jeremy, sorry I can't help you on this ... I didn't have time to actually speak with the people in the booth, but just grabbed some literature and thumbed-through one of the books (VERY nice quality).

Cheers,

Chris

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