But wait, I did paint the Mona Lisa. Here’s the video evidence of me doing so. Scroll down, it’s the second video on the page:
http://www.codecooker.com/projects_video/misc/
…Nobody is going to believe you painted "The Mona Lisa"
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Well, Piss Christ is a photo of a crucifix submerged in pee, the artist had to create that first in order to make the photograph. And if a banana duct-taped to a gallery wall passes as art, the rest has either been done or will be soon. Clouds could surely qualify as conceptual art. Robert Rauschenberg had a paint-covered tire driven over 20 sheets of paper and the result is now in the collection of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.By artists somehow capturing them. I meant these things standing on their own being claimed as art.
Well, Piss Christ is a photo of a crucifix submerged in pee, the artist had to create that first in order to make the photograph. And if a banana duct-taped to a gallery wall passes as art, the rest has either been done or will be soon. Clouds could surely qualify as conceptual art. Robert Rauschenberg had a paint-covered tire driven over 20 sheets of paper and the result is now in the collection of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.
You are not grasping my point at all. If an artist renders those subjects in some medium - painting, sculpture, music, photography etc. - then it's art. But the topics I listed as examples do not, in and of themselves qualify as art. Art is made only by artists and with intention. It does not occur naturally, it isn't made by animals, and it's not the output of some factory spewing sludge into a river.
Whether it is good art or not is another matter. A crucifix in urine is the intentional act of a human. But it's barely art at all, it's an anti-religious propaganda hit piece in artistic drag, presumably so the "artist" can hide behind "you don't get to take me to task for this, it's aaaaaarrrrt." Art as a scam has a long and malignant history. As a different example, fashion photography may be "artistic" and very well executed, but it's ultimately advertising which - if it's art at all - it's a fairly low form of it.
Again we agree. I will buy your drinks at the bar tonight.
That is your personal definition. Why does it have to be an "artist"? What defines a "medium"? An oil spill on water is media.If an artist renders those subjects in some medium
That is your personal definition. Why does it have to be an "artist"? What defines a "medium"? An oil spill on water is media.
Once again, your definition. I have seen "art" painted by elephants and insects.Because art is made by people, not natural process or other parts of the animal kingdom.
OK, but I only drink Domaine de la Romanée-Conti wine (when someone else is buying) .... bwhahahaha
Because art is made by people, not natural process or other parts of the animal kingdom.
Once again, your definition. I have seen "art" painted by elephants and insects.
So is human waste.
Not a problem. Your finding the bar that I am in may be a problem for you though.
That said, natural processes can have beauty, which exists independently of art.
Until someone paints it or photographs it and then their rendition of it could be art.
In my opinion, a grapefruit is a metal. Therefore, a grapefruit is a metal. Now let me tell you my opinion about art.
Not really a curse. Like most things, it has its positive and negative aspects.Life would be so much simpler if not only religion and politics are banned from this forum, but the ambiguous and contentious term "art" itself. It's been a curse on photography since Day One.
If elephants and insects can make art, then,everything - in principle - either is- or could be art.
Life would be so much simpler if not only religion and politics are banned from this forum, but the ambiguous and contentious term "art" itself. It's been a curse on photography since Day One.
What would Ai produce if you told it to make an "art photograph"? - another goofy million of them?
If I were to put a painting made by an elephant or an insect side-by-side with one made by a human, could you tell me which is art and which is not?
Better still, Ask Ai to take a Selfie. If it turns out looking like the Terminator, or names itself Hal, we know we're all in for deep trouble.
Alan - around here, everyone with green hair and a nose ring is an "artiste". And the more they try to look different, the more they all look the same. So does their "art".
So now let us debate the meaning of "documentary". All actual photographs could potentially be classified as documenting something. But no Ai or PS-concocted ones should be.
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