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It was a very odd video. Firstly, why even make such a thing if you decide not to 'out' the photographer in question? Unless, that is, the photographer is so universally famous that the name "A" is enough for us to know it's Annie Leibovitz making this gossip-worthy information that's important enough to be picked up by mainstream photo sites. Seemingly the intern was desperate to share this partial gossip with the world rather than keep in with her circle of friends which would be the case for any other weird account of interning.
 
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I wonder if assisting for pay is better than interning for free. For some people, not paying for a service or a product reduces the perceived value. If I interned for free, I'd expect some knowledge and respect for my sweat. After all, we all had to start from the bottom and want to be treated well.
 

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An apparently successful attempt at viral marketing for fame, fortune and a good job. She's every bit as narcissistic, calculating, and shrewd as "A", and will no doubt land on her feet, unlike the dead cat-sicle.
 
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An apparently successful attempt at viral marketing for fame, fortune and a good job. She's every bit as narcissistic, calculating, and shrewd as "A", and will no doubt land on her feet, unlike the dead cat-sicle.

That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?
 

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Be fair to us ignorant people.

I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about.

Where could we find that information about a contest?
I did not even see that there was a video (blocked by my computer).
 

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I am also guilty of having a lack of intelligence. I read the page linked to in the original post and also read the comments and info on the intern's youtube page. But no information was given about the monetary motivation for the video.
 

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Ahhh...one has to click on the link in the PDN article to find that out. So that is why it looked so rehearsed.. and also why little things are exaggerated to make it sound like a big deal.

Here is the link in the PDN article...

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That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?

I guess my life isn't vacuous enough that I clicked every link on the page. Oh well.
 
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That's not why she did it. She made the video to enter a contest (which required video entry) for "worst internship experience", with the winner getting a $500 gift card to Macy's. I wish people had the intelligence to read before they start spouting off about something they know nothing about. Its so much more fun to slam someone you don't know, isn't it?

Um, "Alex" is slamming, publicly, the woman who gave her an elite and sought-after internship. And in such a way that the woman is transparently identifiable.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was "never say anything negative about your previous employer" when interviewing for another job. It just makes you look bad. Slamming your employer in an internet video takes that to the next level. I wouldn't hire either of them.

-Laura
 

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Geez, my first job was scrubbing pots, mopping floors and cleaning bathrooms in my Dad's restaurant. Good thing I didn't have to tickle someone's feet instead. How could I have handled that? :rolleyes:
 

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I was an unpaid assistant to a major photographer during a internationally known workshop. What was I assigned to do -- scrub his floor and pack some prints away. Did I complain -- no. Instead I worried that I might have put too many prints in the boxes.

He did say that he would send me one of his prints...Almost 30 years later I am still waiting for the print...:D

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I guess my life isn't vacuous enough that I clicked every link on the page. Oh well.

It was vacuous enough that you took time from your day to slam someone you do not know. If you're going to say something nasty about someone you should at least know what you're commenting on. That's basic courtesy. Think the "Golden Rule". Would you want someone calling you the names you called this girl based on false assumptions because the person commenting didn't know what he was really commenting on? I wouldn't :cool:
 

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But Chris, Mr. Brunner seems to be very close in his assessment of the situation, and of the woman in question, despite not having all the facts. The video itself supports most of his contentions. Just because it was a "contest" does not validate her video. It was a very slick presentation, thought out and rehearsed...the head-tossing, hand gestures, eye-movements, tone of voice, and script.

The purpose of the video was to put herself in the best possible light and the photographer in the worst possible light for monetary gain (and a bit of fame). The photographer has no chance to give us her side of the story, nor do we have any proof of the validity of the intern's side of the story.

Of course, trashing other people for fun and profit is nothing new, and people have made a good living at it for centuries. But that does not mean that one should condone the practice.
 

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Poor Sophia. She goes to work for an artiste who she discovers is a little weird. She doesn't like her new nickname. She's an intern who doesn't want to follow directions. It's a tough world out there.

That's OK though. She's just saying all this to get a $500 gift card.

I notice below the video it says it's NOT Annie Liebovitz. Maybe "S" should have made the effort to go beyond the first letter of the alphabet.
 

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It was vacuous enough that you took time from your day to slam someone you do not know. If you're going to say something nasty about someone you should at least know what you're commenting on. That's basic courtesy. Think the "Golden Rule". Would you want someone calling you the names you called this girl based on false assumptions because the person commenting didn't know what he was really commenting on? I wouldn't :cool:

Not at all. First of all I have not called her nasty names, neither trollop, strumpet, nor whore, and here you have clearly erred. I have described her in my opinion as narcissistic, calculating, and shrewd, which is quite a different and altogether fair assessment regarding her uncoerced and willfully purposeful public testimony. If she took money in exchange for sex and I described her as a whore I would not for example in that context be calling her names. She has put herself up in a public way of her own volition, and in doing so, she is completely eligible, therefore my comments are neither capricious nor arbitrary. It doesn't matter that I know her or have known her or not, or if I have calculated the very vectors of the atoms in her body. She has made a very public statement and appearance of her own volition, and I have commented fairly. Any public statement made in so finite a package such as a video that an individual creates for public dissemination must needs be self contained and self supporting, without the need for context or harried forensic work on the part of the recipient, furthermore the actual context in this case is even more wretched and pitiful than I had supposed, and undermines what little credit that might have been ascribed in the first place. I have no idea why you would feel so chivalrous, and I dare say charitable in the face of something so pathetically philistine, but that is of course a kindness on your part, which can be both respected and lamented as naive, simultaneously. I am not inclined to be kind to gold diggers myself, particularly because the supposed anonymity she has given the photographer at comment is completely and calculatingly disingenuous, rumored to be accompanied with a legal spoiler in the fine print to place the name foremost, and it is not unreasonable to suppose some doubt that the media "success" of her anecdote would have been so without the unscrupulous implication, and that it would pass as tasteful only to one who is exceedingly obtuse.

I would also say my original comment is right on the money, so to speak, except I gave her rather too much credit. The fact that your careful research revealed that the video was created directly at the chance for gain, and a wholly miserable, materialistic, and head-bobbingly superficial gain at that quite obviously bears out my earlier assessment, but unfortunately discredits her ambition, it falling to the sub par of pedestrian. She is a typical or perhaps even shining example of generation duh, and I don't feel even the slightest twinge of compassion in calling it out. Indeed, much as I have endured your errantly Christian lectures in regard to my public comment on her obvious dolt-age that was made public by her own hand, so must she endure some certain comments that are ad oculos, and furthermore engendered by her own request, just as these preceding comments are honestly and rightfully at yours.

Apologies for the gutting.
 
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This BS is not for APUG. The kid should have enough sense to not stay there. Jobs are hard to get I know, but no one should stay or put up with this sort of stuff. Good to report to even us. Get out, now!
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