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I was having a camera audit a few days ago. I have too many, and I have to wait until the wife is out before I get them all out otherwise she will realise just how many there are. It's the annual 'what do I take on holiday' dilemma. I want to prepare for every eventuality, but it is a holiday after all, and the kids go mad when I produce the tripod. So the RB67 stays at home, but there is an F100 with Portra 400 for family shots, an F3 with Ilford 3200 for interiors, an FM3a with HP5 for general black and white and a few primes. But then I have the F4 with Velvia for landscapes and macro, and I really don't use that enough. Then I start to wonder if this is really too much? Perhaps just for once I should limit myself to one thing and I slowly reach for the D700 and 28-70mm. 'Just for colour' I tell myself, I will use digital for colour and stick to film for black and white, that's sensible yes?

I convince myself, I'm not selling out, the D700 is a very fine camera. I saw some finalists in the British Gas Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition that had prints up to 2 or 3 feet across taken on a D700 (and D300) and they were wonderful, full of detail. Then I stop and think. Why do I take photographs? I'm not that good, I don't sell them. I have a point and shoot digital I use for powerpoint slides for talks and websites when I need an image. And then I see what it is. I use digital when I need an image or when it's too difficult to use film, such as extreme macro or using attached to a microscope or telescope or when I do the school play, when I have to get results. But I don't enjoy it. I don't enjoy lightroom or photoshop or filing digital files or backup. I do enjoy squinting through the viewfinder, looking, developing the skill to see the image and the anticipation of getting the results back from the lab. Perhaps my images would look better taken on a D700, and because I can take hundreds of them, by chance, a few would be good, better than if I used film, but I don't care. I would rather be a slowly improving photographer working within the limitations of the medium than one who is boosted by the technology. The D700 can stay at home, I don't need it for the holiday, holidays should be about fun and doing things you enjoy.
 
I understand where you're coming from, and my digital camera never comes out now save to photograph negatives when the scanner is being temperamental.

But tbh I think this sort of post is an invitation for yet another multi-page FvD/digital-hate thread, of which we already have far too many. I feel sure that's not what you intend, but it is so often the outcome still ...
 
It's not intended as a digital hate thread, the intention was as an film-love one, so positives about film only please!
 
Perhaps just for once I should limit myself to one thing

If you are going on a family holiday, it probably would be best to limit yourself to just one body - Perhaps the F100 loaded with HP5 and a general purpose zoom. Taking multiple bodies runs the risk of you looking like a japanese tourist snapping at anything & everything :blink:

Just one camera will allow you to concentrate on the important things like capturing memories that will be treasured in later years.
 
The whole point of being on holiday with family, is to be with family. That being said, keep the gear to an absolute minimum. I am decidedly analog, but here's where I recommend taking just a digital P&S, and interact with the family.
 
The whole point of being on holiday with family, is to be with family. That being said, keep the gear to an absolute minimum. I am decidedly analog, but here's where I recommend taking just a digital P&S, and interact with the family.

No matter how much I live film... x2 (and mine is an iPhone)
 
"Then I start to wonder if this is really too much?"

You think!?
 
To be honest, the vast majority of the time I just keep it to the F100 with a 35mm F2 with Portra 400. That's great for family shots, and the wonderful thing is that after getting home we all look forward to the prints arriving a few weeks later so we can relive the holiday. The other stuff might get an outing depending on where we're going...
 
Few minutes ago I counted my film cameras. Twenty in total. About eleven are on the go list. Nothing expensive. Most of going ones are all kind of P&S, half broken, needs CLA. Some of them needs constant service, to be able to take pictures once in a while, like Minox 35.

I don't want to deal with huge FF DSLRs on leisure trips. If I have to it is small 500D.
For digital I keep 5D to be able quickly take good quality family pictures and I use this camera for "massive reportage" where I need to provide couple of hundreds pictures with event participants.
And this is it for now with digital, used to be everything with it for few years.
It is about four years now I'm back to take family photos on film, color and b/w. I also prefer to use film only cameras if I take pictures of event and I wasn't asked to provide them in advance and I'm taking one, two rolls max.


And I'm not interested anymore if someone took some award on competition with digital cameras. In fact, almost any magazine, book or internet page with taken digitally pictures has no value as something to look at and enjoy to me. It is still digital, which has little attraction for me as viewer. It is very practical, fast but nothing else.
Couldn't care less about details and my first and last international award for digital picture was taken through windshield car glass and it was muddy. :smile:
 
The whole point of being on holiday with family, is to be with family. That being said, keep the gear to an absolute minimum. I am decidedly analog, but here's where I recommend taking just a digital P&S, and interact with the family.

Agree. For family outings or vacations I only typically bring one camera. And add another to the bag only if there will be days when I'll separate myself off for a few hours to shoot more seriously, then I might bring a second more complex shooter like one of my medium format rigs and perhaps a tripod. But even then only one comes out at a time and often none.
 
To the OP,,, your original post was very well said! We do an annual Kentucky Derby party every year at my son's inlaws in Oregon, I take a different camera every year. Started out as an accident, but has turned into a "thing". Last year was a very nice Retina 35mm, I think next year will be my 2x3 speed graphic ;-) I might even dress as a 1930's news photographer.
 
Isn't this where a Leica M plus a few rolls of film come into play?
 
I got a D700 to replace my Nikon scanner when it bit the dust. The digital SLR sits on the copy stand while the film cameras go out to play.
 
I, too, do photography because I enjoy the entire process. I have pretty much relegated myself to my iPhone for down and dirty, quick and social network, documentation type pictures. For everything else it has been film only for about 2 years. I can do (IMHO) gorgeous stuff with my Olympus E-3 digital and Lightroom/Photoshop.
But it bores me. I can go on a shoot and capture 300 shots, then sort through all of them for a couple that I like and will run through Photoshop.
Somehow, it all seems plastic to me now.
I don't take good photographs. I forget a lot when I'm shooting film.
But I learn every time I go out and at least now I know where I went wrong or what I forgot. And each picture is a creation by hand.
I like that.
 
My digital camera makes a wonderful bookend or doorstop.
 
I was having a camera audit a few days ago. I have too many, and I have to wait until the wife is out before I get them all out otherwise she will realise just how many there are. ...

That is so funny!

On some website right now, a wife is writing "we're going on holiday and I have to select my shoes carefully so my husband doesn't realise just how many there are."
 
That is so funny!

On some website right now, a wife is writing "we're going on holiday and I have to select my shoes carefully so my husband doesn't realise just how many there are."

TOO funny!
 
My wife puts all of the shoes in a separate suitcase and uses a nametag with "Imelda" on it. If I take cameras she expects that I'll put them in a bag with a nametag "Ansel" in it.
 
That is so funny!

On some website right now, a wife is writing "we're going on holiday and I have to select my shoes carefully so my husband doesn't realise just how many there are."

When I got one big shelf unit for the gear I put everything on there and realized. "Oh crap. Now everything is in one place." Of course when the wife saw the setup she did comment "you have a lot of cameras".
 
As long as I don't put them all in one place, she doesn't realise how many there are - they all look the same to her. Mind you, I had the same conversation with a female colleague concerning her handbags.
 
My wife puts all of the shoes in a separate suitcase and uses a nametag with "Imelda" on it. If I take cameras she expects that I'll put them in a bag with a nametag "Ansel" in it.

"Imelda" is my wife's nickname. It hasn't deterred her. She still leads the shoe/camera race by at least a 2/1 margin.
 
As long as I don't put them all in one place, she doesn't realise how many there are - they all look the same to her.

That is so funny. I'm really enjoying this.

But maybe she really *does* know what you're doing and is writing about it in a women's forum...

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"My husband is so silly: he keeps hiding his cameras from me, thinking I don't know what he has. I was ok with the RB67 (which he rarely uses), the F4, and the FM3a, but the F100 is just too much - I don't know what he sees in it. Then there's the D700 - it's a fine camera, but I fear this is just the beginning. If he starts buying ED VR lenses or starts thinking about Leica equipment, then I'm spending a long holiday in Italy in return."
 
I'm in the same boat, going to Iceland, Denmark, and Sweden in a couple of months. I think I'm bringing the Hasselblad only, but a little devil on my shoulder keeps telling me to bring a 35mm as well. Just for those wonderful moody grainy landscapes and Iceland probably warrants using color film to some extent. So should I bring the Leica too? Or is that too heavy. Do I want maybe a camera with a built-in light meter. Maybe the Canon EOS-3? Big and bulky. Sigh. I think I'm just going to have to buy my old Rolleiflex back. Then I'd have room for a 35mm in my bag. But wait. I need filters to enhance the landscapes in Iceland. So I need the Hasselblad... Around and around it goes, in circles, ad nauseum.
 
My iceland , denmark , sweden travel is like that , I stand from the computer screen , look out from the window , thats all.
 
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