Perhaps the dumbest question ever posed but, I am embarrassed ...

voceumana · Dec 23, 2017

AgX said:
The problem started with you Americans using the Roman figure I... for Arabic numbers.

The problem isn't specifically Americans, but rather font designers.

AgX · Dec 23, 2017

No, here noone uses the Roman "I" for the Arabic "1" in daily life. But in American handwriting I see such.

The commercial font issue is something else, but not less bothering.

RattyMouse · Dec 23, 2017

David Lyga said:
I know the difference between Arabic and Roman but I wanted to know for sure if the name of the formula was stated correctly. Sometimes people simply place '1' where 'I' should go. "Eleven" then should be correct. I hope. - David Lyga

What does it say on the Ilford box, 1 or I? There's your answer.

RattyMouse · Dec 23, 2017

DWThomas said:
I resolved this perplexing question by using HC110.

Likewise. I've used plenty of D-76 back when I was shooting 10+ rolls a week. Now that I'm down to 1-2 rolls/month, HC-110 is my primary developer.

John Wiegerink · Dec 23, 2017

Anon Ymous said:
Ilford ID2 is a totally different, MQ, universal developer. ID11 is the D76 equivalent.

Yes, I know, the (2) means two.

Theo Sulphate · Dec 23, 2017

AgX said:
A similar issue I have got with those type fonts that use the same shape for the lower case "l" and the capital "I" ... and of course the Roman"I"...

What is really idiotic, especially since computers are ubiquitous, is that some modern display terminals fail to distinguish between the numeral "1", the lowercase letter "l" and the uppercase "I" !!!

For looking at program code, sometimes I have to rely on the text editor using a different color for numerals than non-numerals.

For written documents, typically I change the font to Garamond.

jvo · Dec 24, 2017

"ill-phor-DD"

BrianShaw · Dec 24, 2017

mpirie said:
Ah, yes, Kodak's venerable HC-two-oh

... Kodak's venerable HC-eleven-oh

Pat Erson · Dec 24, 2017

DWThomas said:
I resolved this perplexing question by using HC110.

I too use "hc aye aye oh" ;-)

Larry the sailor · Dec 24, 2017

So long as it doesn't get confused with ID10T

mpirie · Dec 24, 2017

Pat Erson said:
I too use "hc aye aye oh" ;-)

Is that a derivative of Disney's eye-oh, eye-oh

pbromaghin · Dec 24, 2017

AgX said:
No, here noone uses the Roman "I" for the Arabic "1" in daily life. But in American handwriting I see such.

That way we don't have to add that silly little squiggle across the 7.

AgX · Dec 24, 2017

Oh no... you just hinted at another issue I forgot about...

Maybe we better stop it all with this:

Old-N-Feeble · Dec 24, 2017

jvo said:
"ill-phor-DD"

Arklatexian · Dec 24, 2017

mpirie said:
Certainly not the dumbest question ever!

ID-eleven for me!!

+1

Arklatexian · Dec 24, 2017

mpirie said:
Is that a derivative of Disney's eye-oh, eye-oh

No, it came from a song we sing as children here in the USA about a farmer named McDonald (or is it MacDonald?)......Regards!

Gerald C Koch · Dec 25, 2017

David Lyga said:
The ILFORD formula that is identical to D-76: Is it pronounced 'ID TWO' or 'ID ELEVEN'? - David Lyga

It's not a dumb question. I have the same problem with file names. Does 'II' denote eleven or the Roman numeral two. In other words does the particular font supplliy the serifs to determine which may not be present. Even when it does is if the font of a size where the distinction is readily seen. As I once mention I am a member of the 'Presbyopian' congregation.

benjiboy · Dec 25, 2017

It's ID eleven David, and has been for at least sixty years since I've been into photography.

MattKing · Dec 25, 2017

benjiboy said:
It's ID eleven David, and has been for at least sixty years since I've been into photography.

Don't you mean that it "has been for the last LX years since you have been into photography"?

Chris Livsey · Dec 25, 2017

oldtimermetoo said:
No, it came from a song we sing as children here in the USA about a farmer named McDonald (or is it MacDonald?)......Regards!

Old MacDonald had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
And on his farm he had - the worst possible Scrabble hand
E-I-E-I-O

Season's Greetings
(Now start an apostrophe war)

Wayne · Dec 25, 2017

jvo said:
"ill-phor-DD"

Thank you. I've been pronouncing it with only one D all these years.

Gerald C Koch · Dec 26, 2017

Wayne said:
Thank you. I've been pronouncing it with only one D all these years.

If you spell it with two D's then name takes on a Welsh connotation. It would then be pronounced something like IforTH

Sirius Glass · Dec 26, 2017

Gerald C Koch said:
If you spell it with two D's then name takes on a Welsh connotation. It would then be pronounced something like IforTH

I have tried for years but I have never been able to pronounce "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch".

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