Problem is that the police themselves likely do not understand the law. At least here.
As others have stated as well, it is better to call the cops yourself. Then they look at it from your perspective instead of from the other persons. It also helps to understand the law a little.
That may be true but in this case the cop had the correct response. So I'm not too sure what the fuss is about. The guy allegedly being photographed was a jerk and talking to cops is a minor inconvenience... but the story had a happy ending.Problem is that the police themselves likely do not understand the law. At least here.
Yup, you are more than likely 100% right. Spiratone used to sell a lens hood with a built-in 90 degree mirror. You could photograph people standing to your right or left while aiming straight ahead. I had one I got from the son of a PI when the PI died. Never used it, but saw results and they do work splendid.This from a rational intelligent person -- the likes of which I don't think we're dealing with here.
Three years ago I took a picture of a new building going up from the car. At the next set of lights a young guy came racing up windows down asking me who the **** I was taking pictures of. I pointed to the billboard around the construction and drove on. He accelerated away like I'd just stolen his soul.
A friend was making a call on his phone at a railway station. The light was dim and being short sighted, he held the phone up to see the contact details. A railway goon rushed over and said he couldn't take pictures of people on railway property.
Welcome to the UK.
Ok, so I was out the other early evening walking around town with my new Leica (it's digital, but that doesn't matter) and I was taking a few images to test etc, and I had taken a wide snap shot of a basically empty street sidewalk that was backlit. About 5min later, a guy rolls up on me, jumps out of his car and gets in my face and says "Let me see your camera....were you taking pictures of me"? Utterly surprised, I said I don't think so, I'm just snapping a few shots testing my new camera". I was standing on a sidewalk talking with a family and their kids were petting my dog. He kept demanding to see my images, of which there were a total of three. I said fine, and there was an image with two heavily backlit people that were tiny and way off and unrecognizable in the photo.
It was apparently he and his girlfriend and he went nuts saying I was invading his privacy and then he began accusing me of taking photos of kids (which I wasn't...the family were simply saying hi to my dog), then he proceeds to call the police...taking photos of me and my plate. I said "fine, lets go to the police station together, I'm not breaking any laws here". He drove off, and then when I was driving home, he had been following me. Police show up and I was interrogated! I have no criminal record whatsoever, and am a parent. I felt completely violated. I showed the police the image that upset him and they terminated the "investigation" immediately while rolling their eyes.
America has gone nuts. Goddam Police State.
#1. I should have told him to go pound sand and not show him anything.
#2. If I'd had my film Leica, I could have just said to go F$%k himself.
Maybe it wasn't his girlfriend.
It's not my thing either. I really don't like being photographed, and just assume others wouldn't either. I'm sure I saved myself a lot of grief with that attitude.This thread did not help me to overcome my fear of photographing people.
And the same here: Several years ago, while street shooting in Calgary AB, I was told by an overzealous security guard (at a now defunct business that was located on the end of Stephen Avenue in downtown Calgary) that I couldn't photograph a very colorfully-dressed window washer at the front of the establishment he was "guarding." My attempts to explain to the individual that there was in fact no reasonable expectation of privacy once one crossed the threshold of one's domicile, fell on deaf ears. He grew more more insistent, to the point that i just told him to go f**k himself. Off he went to find one of Calgary's finest. Moments later, the clown showed up with one of the boys in blue. The officer then asked what I was photographing and why. I gave him the same lecture re public and private domain and the differences therein. As well, a short discourse on the law and the "no reasonable expectation of privacy while in the public sphere." My discourse was met with a deer in the headlights look, and the suggestion that I should, in the future, ask for permission before photographing strangers? Right...Problem is that the police themselves likely do not understand the law. At least here.
It's not my thing either. I really don't like being photographed, and just assume others wouldn't either. I'm sure I saved myself a lot of grief with that attitude.
That is old-fashioned nonsense to have some official twerp impose a photograph restriction. I remember my father, who was a hydraulic engineer and at the time of the incident an employee of the US Navy, told me he tried to take a picture of a dam during a site visit in World War II. A guard yelled at him and said no photography. In the visitor center, there were postcards of the exact same scene.
...Spiratone used to sell a lens hood with a built-in 90 degree mirror. You could photograph people standing to your right or left while aiming straight ahead. I had one I got from the son of a PI when the PI died. Never used it, but saw results and they do work splendid.
But yes, the entire world has gone nuts. Everyone. Me. You.
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No, we on APUG don't think of you that way at allPeople think I'm a harmless nutter with no film in the camera
America has gone nuts. Goddam Police State.
Why would your experience make you call this a police state? The police did what we pay them to do! They were called and they responded.
"I showed the police the image that upset him and they terminated the "investigation" immediately while rolling their eyes."
Please choose your word more carefully!
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