I'm not the only one who uses hyperfocal distance shooting -- especially with a 25mm lens. I guess all those half-frame engineers didn't know what they were doing.
Even at f/8 you still need focusing.
You actually use this thing?
I used my Ricoh Auto Half as a go to carry in the briefcase Camera. And it was a lot more chunky than the Pentax 17. I could see the 17 riding around in the same case as my Panasonic compact digital,for quick grab shots when I am out and about.What in your mind is the point of a half-frame camera? Just curious.
What in your mind is the point of a half-frame camera? Just curious.
And they all failed.
You're underestimating us. A lot of us still grew up with CDs, cassettes, VHS, and film. Our childhood pics were taken on film, on car rides with mom we were listening to the new P!nk/Adele/Taylor Swift CD, Sunday trips to church with Gramma we listened to her tapes recorded off the radio, and our baby videos and Disney movies were on VHS/8mm tape. That's how a decent chunk of the not-quite-middle-class teens grew up. Of course, we're also on the very edge of growing up with physical media, so in just a couple years you'll be hearing generation alpha ask what a dial tone is and which side of a CD goes up.Ask a teenager about a diskette, cassette, CD. They might have heard about it, but not much personal experience with them, at most. Vinyl is different, maybe better comparable with film: a niche for enthusiasts of different sorts, but still not mainstream.
I think film is as popular in Europe as in America, but again, not mainstream.
Makes me fear the Pentax 17 might fail because users will have to actually load film in the camera, and then focus the lens. And then there is the impossible hurdle of advancing the film! Only someone with a PhD in mechanical engineering can possibly manage that sort of challenge.
And they all failed.
I have never encountered these people that cannot load a manual film camera.
It is hard to imagine there could be any easier film loading than a 35mm SLR. On the electromechanical SLR with powered film advance, all you do is pull a bit of film out, and the camera does the rest. But even on the fully mechanical and manual SLR, the procedure is very simple to learn.
I'm not the only one who uses hyperfocal distance shooting -- especially with a 25mm lens. I guess all those half-frame engineers didn't know what they were doing.
You're underestimating us. A lot of us still grew up with CDs, cassettes, VHS, and film. Our childhood pics were taken on film, on car rides with mom we were listening to the new P!nk/Adele/Taylor Swift CD, Sunday trips to church with Gramma we listened to her tapes recorded off the radio, and our baby videos and Disney movies were on VHS/8mm tape. That's how a decent chunk of the not-quite-middle-class teens grew up. Of course, we're also on the very edge of growing up with physical media, so in just a couple years you'll be hearing generation alpha ask what a dial tone is and which side of a CD goes up.
There are a handful of shots from this camera online now that appear to show good sharpness, but I've yet to see a good test of what it's capable of with a slow film and a 4800+ dpi digitization solution. I'd be really interested in that.
Maybe we don't have too high expectation for such a lens, although I believe it will be an excellent performer if at the sweet spot aperture of f/8, no camera shake of 1/125s, and accurate focusing.
In the last 12 months I have tested a few good quality vintage half frame cameras (Ricoh Auto Half,
I should get the Pentax 17 later next week, and will try to push its limit with slow film, good exposure, and accurate focusing.
You're underestimating us. A lot of us still grew up with CDs, cassettes, VHS, and film. Our childhood pics were taken on film, on car rides with mom we were listening to the new P!nk/Adele/Taylor Swift CD, Sunday trips to church with Gramma we listened to her tapes recorded off the radio, and our baby videos and Disney movies were on VHS/8mm tape. That's how a decent chunk of the not-quite-middle-class teens grew up. Of course, we're also on the very edge of growing up with physical media, so in just a couple years you'll be hearing generation alpha ask what a dial tone is and which side of a CD goes up.
optical design is based on the 25mm lens from the Ricoh AutoHalf, it's undoubtedly great. I found the 25mm on my Ricoh Caddy (same lens, only continuous-focusing) to be the sharpest half-frame I've used -- and I've used a lot of them.
It is fully 12 years since a teenager came to me in my office at the school with a VHS cassette of an educational programme and said, "I don't know what this is, but my teacher says you can fix it".....it required splicing.
I do have friends born after 2000 and they've no memories of film even if perhaps baby photos were on film. They might vaguely remember CDs but have never owned one themselves. Certainly never used a floppy disc or a cassette tape.
As for the teenage kids I work with these days, they certainly have never handled a CD. Never even seen film unless it's Instax. Most have never touched a camera of any flavour that wasn't also a phone. I work with a young teacher of 25 who doesn't know what a cassette is!
But I'll tell you something else. I have a turntable in my office and they all know what a vinyl record is. Whereas 15 years ago, that would not have been the case. I am the "cool" member of staff because I listen to vinyl in my office. "Sir, what's that sick groove?"......."Let me introduce you to MIles Davis"....
Maybe film will follow, in which case I shall probably be elevated to the status of a minor deity if the kids ever find out I've been shooting film all this time.
I'm pretty sure film is going to end up in the same niche as vinyl.
Hear me out on this,
Both formats were around for a very very long time, both are tactile and offer a different - not better or worse - take on more modern iterations. There is a 100 year backlog of equipment for both of them. Vinyl weathered the low of lows and came back, with film there's a good chance of the same happening. Cost of entry is low but getting a collection can be costly. There's lore, tradition and skill to be learned.
I think Pentax making new cameras will be one of the major pivot points in the comeback of film. If one or two major camera makers come back on board we're good to go.
It's a strange moment in history. The WallyMart down in town now has about 12 feet of shelf space displaying new of LP records - probably around 50 titles. The next isle has a seemingly continuous supply of fresh Fuji Superia Xtra 400 no other film, just Superia. They still have the two big bins of DVDs and some BlueRay too. No music CDs however....not for a long time.
but, we digress.
600 EUR for this? I wish they released it on April 1st, it would have made more sense.
I see no connection to bringing film cameras back into production. But since there are those who feel roll of film can cost 30 EUR and the world should still be thankful for, I am bound to be proven wrong.
Based on it being sold out in Japan already, as well as initial allotments being sold out at a number of US retailers (not sure about EU), I think you’re already wrong. And I’m not sure how bringing an actual film camera into production has “no connection to bringing film cameras back into production”?
Anyway, I’m eagerly awaiting my preorder, which I’ll happily load with $5 rolls of bulk loaded HP5 and go out to shoot with!
My point was it's a something close to a toy camera, with cherished brand name stuck to it, for some 600 EUR (where I spotted it at KameraStore.) It has nothing to do with the general excitement about film cameras being back into production. It's a niche product for those who keep talking about other P&S from the past that are now selling for more than when new, most not worth a fraction of that.
600 EUR for this? I wish they released it on April 1st, it would have made more sense.
I see no connection to bringing film cameras back into production. But since there are those who feel roll of film can cost 30 EUR and the world should still be thankful for, I am bound to be proven wrong.
My point was it's a something close to a toy camera, with cherished brand name stuck to it, for some 600 EUR (where I spotted it at KameraStore.) It has nothing to do with the general excitement about film cameras being back into production. It's a niche product for those who keep talking about other P&S from the past that are now selling for more than when new, most not worth a fraction of that.
I can't wait for this to be shown as "mass produced" product for ... 500 ??? then it will be all clear how well it sells.
Thank you. The people saying this should be much cheaper have clearly never been involved with designing and manufacturing something. There are two possibilities:There was no way on earth it was ever going to cost much less than 500 dollarpounds. No possibly way that could have been achieved.
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