Pentax 6x7 Costs

ColColt · Aug 31, 2015

Sure. Why not?

Because I have vertigo. I can't get on the roof without my head spinning. If I'm on the 8th floor of a building, go over to the window and look straight out, fine...I just can't look down.

Anyone should know you can't hand hold a 6x7 camera at speeds below 125 unless you have nerves of steel. I shot a lot of night scenes with that camera at anywhere from 2-10 sec but it was on a ten pound tripod, mirror up after focus.

Xmas · Aug 31, 2015

ColColt said:
Anyone should know you can't hand hold a 6x7 camera at speeds below 125 unless you have nerves of steel. I shot a lot of night scenes with that camera at anywhere from 2-10 sec but it was on a ten pound tripod, mirror up after focus.

Hi David
Yes you can what you really mean you can't enlarge the negatives afterwards?

Alan Gales · Aug 31, 2015

ColColt said:
Because I have vertigo. I can't get on the roof without my head spinning. If I'm on the 8th floor of a building, go over to the window and look straight out, fine...I just can't look down.

They were working on a multistory government building downtown. You could look up and see the men working without walls. My Father-in-law asked me if I would have worked that job if the company I worked for had it. I said sure. Now I'm 5'-8" and my Father-in-law is 6'-3". He replied that there would be no way of getting him up there. I told him that he was awful tall to be afraid of heights!

Personally, I have problems with rides. Tilt-a-Whirls make me dizzy sick and I hate that feeling in my stomach traveling down a steep hill on a roller coaster.

ColColt · Aug 31, 2015

I look down from a given height and my(fill in the blank) crawl up in my stomach. Just looking at Bourke-White out on that ledge makes me dizzy. Roller coasters scared me once, I never got back on one but, the Tilt-A-Whirl didn't bother me.

I find it strange to be able to look down from inside an airplane and no problem.

Alan Gales · Aug 31, 2015

ColColt said:
I look down from a given height and my(fill in the blank) crawl up in my stomach. Just looking at Bourke-White out on that ledge makes me dizzy. Roller coasters scared me once, I never got back on one but, the Tilt-A-Whirl didn't bother me.

I find it strange to be able to look down from inside an airplane and no problem.

When I was young a local Church had a picnic with rides. My girlfriend and I got on a tilt-a-whirl. When we got off she told me that my face had changed every shade of green. All I know is that I never got on another one!

A lot of rides bother me so I stay away from them. I used to street race and never had any problems at all though.

ColColt · Aug 31, 2015

Farris wheels-another ride created by a sadist. But, back on topic. I ran across a pretty good deal and I don't think the guy knows what he has. He shows great pics of a 6x7 with handle, caps and a "90 f2.8 lens". As I looked at the lens it's not a standard 90 f2.8 Pentax lens but a LS lens. You can see the tab on the front edge of the lens that shows an "S". If you turned that tab it would cover the S and display a "U". There's also a female connection for the sync cord. I may have to jump on this.

I bought a 90 f2.8 LS lens many years ago and paid $585 for it. His combination lens, camera, body and lens caps and handle is not much greater than that.

Hatchetman · Aug 31, 2015

Those 90mm LS lenses are pretty cheap nowadays. I think I bought one for $90.

Poisson Du Jour · Aug 31, 2015

ColColt said:
Farris wheels-another ride created by a sadist. But, back on topic. I ran across a pretty good deal and I don't think the guy knows what he has. He shows great pics of a 6x7 with handle, caps and a "90 f2.8 lens". As I looked at the lens it's not a standard 90 f2.8 Pentax lens but a LS lens. You can see the tab on the front edge of the lens that shows an "S". If you turned that tab it would cover the S and display a "U". There's also a female connection for the sync cord. I may have to jump on this.

I bought a 90 f2.8 LS lens many years ago and paid $585 for it. His combination lens, camera, body and lens caps and handle is not much greater than that.

There is one important difference between the two 6x7 leaf shutter lenses, and the reason why the 90mm is a good all-round choice outside of its design potential. You can use mirror lock up with the 90/2.8 LS, but not the 165 LS, which will jam the leaf shutter and potentially cause a hang of the 6x7 body mirror.

ColColt · Aug 31, 2015

$90?!! That's unreal. I don't know why the 165 LS would hang. I used the 90LS with MLU and no problem.

Poisson Du Jour · Aug 31, 2015

ColColt said:
$90?!! That's unreal. I don't know why the 165 LS would hang. I used the 90LS with MLU and no problem.

Read the warnings in the 165LS instructions! ;-)

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JW PHOTO · Sep 1, 2015

Believe what Poisson Du Jour says about the 165mm LS lens. I bought one a couple of years ago for next to nothing from a camera store on the internet. The reason it was so cheap is because it was jammed up and I had to fix it. I'm pretty sure the jam was from somebody using mirror-up, but I could be wrong. The lens looks like new so I know the jam wasn't from being worked hard. I also have the 90mm LS and you can use the mirror-up with that no problem. I actually like the 90mm f2.8 LS better for a normal walk-about lens than the 105mm f2.4. That's just me of course. John W

hsteeves · Sep 1, 2015

could you imagine if she dropped that thing. It looks like she is sitting in some kind of slot so it isn't really that bad.

ColColt · Sep 1, 2015

I don't have the instructions for that lens. I had the lens long ago but, it was primarily a portrait lens and never had any need for MLU. The 90LS, however was used a lot during the World's Fair in '82 at night.

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 1, 2015

ColColt said:
I don't have the instructions for that lens. I had the lens long ago but, it was primarily a portrait lens and never had any need for MLU. The 90LS, however was used a lot during the World's Fair in '82 at night.

I am curious. Having read that, there is a very good chance that the lens you used in 1982 was not the same as the redesigned reverse-Distagon SMC Pentax 67-designated 165 LS (and 90 LS) that came onto the market in 1990-1992, along with the updated Pentax 67 body. Was it a 6x7 Takumar 165LS? I don't know what else was available 33 years ago (certainly not SMC Pentax 67 lenses) and whether the modus operandi of any LS lens was different or similar to what we are now using.

ColColt · Sep 1, 2015

I want to say it was the Takumar but don't recall for sure...too long ago. The method of setting up the lens was the same, I assume, as today, the lens still had to be cocked just like the SMC lens today and the shutter speed set to 1/8th second.

DREW WILEY · Sep 2, 2015

I don't know about the 165 LS. But I found my ordinary 165 f/2.8's (mfg relatively late) to be distinctly sharper and more contrasty than my
older 200 Takumar.

ColColt · Sep 2, 2015

I had that lens but sold it. I don't think it was one of their more sharp lens. I liked the 135 lens better. The 165 lens has always been sharp. I had the 45 f4 lens and it was super sharp and contrasty. I took some nice shots with it along the coast of Main...Ogunquit. We were there some years ago and enjoyed it immensely.

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 2, 2015

The 165 LS can commonly be commonly found being used in landscape imaging here in Australia. The weight of this lens means consideration and "look ahead" needs to be made to avoid carrying all that weight for nothing. Still, I can get by with the ordinary 90mm/2.8 or the firecracker 75mm 2.8AL.

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ColColt · Sep 2, 2015

Still, I can get by with the ordinary 90mm/2.8 or the firecracker 75mm 2.8AL.

Now, there's a lens I'd love to have.

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 2, 2015

ColColt said:
Now, there's a lens I'd love to have.

There is conflicting information as to whether Pentax (Ricoh-Pentax) actually still make this lens or it was made up to 2011 in a limited quantity. I would be very surprised if it is still made. Whatever, three [RA-4 KEP-M] prints sold and it paid for itself.

ColColt · Sep 2, 2015

That lens was introduced in 2001 so, I doubt you could find one on this side of the pond.

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 2, 2015

ColColt said:
That lens was introduced in 2001 so, I doubt you could find one on this side of the pond.

I was about to answer this by saying I bought the lens in the US, but no. Unlike every other piece of 6x7 equipment I have sourced from the US, it was actually bought local, NIB, unused and still warrantied. Not many of these 75 ALs are seen here now and owners swear blue murder against anybody trying to prise them away! I know. I've tried it.

ColColt · Sep 2, 2015

I've seen one or two offered on ebay but both were from Japan and you'd have to go through all that bureaucratic red tape to get it.

DannL. · Sep 2, 2015

ColColt said:
I've seen one or two offered on ebay but both were from Japan and you'd have to go through all that bureaucratic red tape to get it.

bureaucratic red tape? Just curious.

Alan Gales · Sep 2, 2015

ColColt said:
I've seen one or two offered on ebay but both were from Japan and you'd have to go through all that bureaucratic red tape to get it.

I recently purchased a Fuji 180mm lens for 4x5 from a Japanese Seller on Ebay. There are no customs to worry about here in the U.S. and everything went fine. I was very happy with the lens. The only problem I see with buying from an overseas Seller is if you are unhappy and ask for a refund because you will be stuck with return shipping costs.

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