Peel off film emulsion without destroy image

[Agency mh]

Dear Forum,
I believe I have found a people who can help me with some advice in order to solve my problem.
I do image transfer by using Polaroid films (4x5"). It nice, but it is very expensive for larger size of the film and also there is a concern about Polaroid company.....
I am trying to substitute Polaroid by some another emulsion. I can expose this emulsion directly by camera or I can even enlarge the images on the emulsion by enlarger.
The goal of this image transfer is that I can peel off the emulsion from Polaroid film without destroy it (in that case by water) and transfer it to another surface (paper) and it stick the surface after it get dry.
Some time ago I tried to find a commercial film which can be peel off, but did not succeeded. My friend have meters of old German technical film and it works perfect for him. But they stopped production already many years ago.
Do not you have an advice what emulsion could behave like this? It can be film emulsion (which would be peeled off from the glass after exposing by camera) or it can be also emulsion which can be peeled off from the paper after enlarging image on it.
...difficult to explain, but I hope you get the point.
Thank you,
Martin

 

[Agency mh]

...I forgot mention, I work with BW films.
Martin

 

[DBP]

If you are simply trying to print on strange surfaces, have you tried liquid emulsions?

 

[User Removed]

I might have a solution for you, but I need a few days to locate it! One of my old photography instructors in school was really into this stuff and gave me a stack of his personal notes and techniques on how to do it and what to use.

Give me a day or two, and I will make a post with the information. Maybe I will just scan the pages for you.

Ryan McIntosh
www.RyanMcIntosh.net

 

[Will S]

I think I have a link:

http://www.pacificsites.com/~hdupre/image.pdf

I've done this with the color stuff, and the key seems to be getting the paper you are transferring to warm enough and then pressing very firmly but evenly on the back. The pdf should help explain it.

Best,

Will

 

[Agency mh]

Thank you for your replies.
To answer you:
-I use Polaroid transfer already long time and there are not problems, just limitation with bigger size expenses
-I do not plan to use some special surfaces, water color paper only
-Ryan, that you for the effort. It would be great
Martin

 

[Neil Miller]

Hello Martin,

Have you seen examples of the mordancage process? There are some here.

The process involves an etch/bleach of a print. If you take it far enough, the edges lift and frill, then eventually the whole of the emulsion layer lifts, but is very fragile and apt to break apart. You can rearrange the emulsion 'frills' to distort the image, and leave them on the same base paper.

You'll get a lot more info if you google "etch bleach process" or "mordancage."

Regards,
Neil.