Patreon for marketing...do you use it?

jtk · Feb 16, 2019

https://www.patreon.com/

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Do you use Patreon to market your prints or photo books (or your photography) ?

Why? Is Patreon integrated somehow with your other marketing activities?

I do know a photographer who uses it, but it's clear that her success as a neo-journalistic art photographer comes from traditional marketing, especially including print, radio and TV and online interviews that relate to her photo books etc....she's personally aggressive and a good talker with a fascinating story.

BradS · Feb 16, 2019

I don’t think of patreon as a marketing tool. It seems to me to be a place where those without a “traditional source of income” ask people to support them (with money donations). An on line place to beg strangers to be your patron.

But, that’s just my impression.

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

BradS said:
I don’t think of patreon as a marketing tool. It seems to me to be a place where those without a “traditional source of income” ask people to support them (with money donations). An on line place to beg strangers to be your patron.

But, that’s just my impression.

You're probably halfway right.. or even almost completely.

I do know one photographer who integrates Patreon with her overall marketing, which includes radio interviews (PBS), newspaper profiles, and lots of personal correspondence with people who have bought from her or have at least signed gallery guest books. She's heavy into complex marketing. Also sells prints and (of course) teaches at university. Despite all that marketing, she's actually a very fine photographer.

faberryman · Feb 25, 2019

jtk said:
Also sells prints and (of course) teaches at university. Despite all that marketing, she's actually a very fine photographer.

Well, if she teaches, she can't be much of a doer. At least I think that's what you have said in other threads. I'm not very impressed with the begging economy.

slackercrurster · Feb 25, 2019

jtk said:
https://www.patreon.com/

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Do you use Patreon to market your prints or photo books (or your photography) ?

Why? Is Patreon integrated somehow with your other marketing activities?

I do know a photographer who uses it, but it's clear that her success as a neo-journalistic art photographer comes from traditional marketing, especially including print, radio and TV and online interviews that relate to her photo books etc....she's personally aggressive and a good talker with a fascinating story.

Where is her radio / YT / online interview? I'd like to hear aggressive women photogs.

slackercrurster · Feb 25, 2019

BradS said:
I don’t think of patreon as a marketing tool. It seems to me to be a place where those without a “traditional source of income” ask people to support them (with money donations). An on line place to beg strangers to be your patron.

But, that’s just my impression.

That is what I need. I'd better look into it.

This RPPC cost $85. I give it away for free...decent res.

https://archive.org/details/ViolettaDanielD.TeoliJr.ArchivalCollection

I am not into it for $, but don't have any more $ to keep throwing at it.

I've got close to half a million feet of small gauge films. I'd like to get scanned, but it takes $$. About 65% of it is ancient porn. (1920s to 1950s.) I was going to do something on 'go fund me' but they said no porn. So that finished that notion.

adelorenzo · Feb 25, 2019

I find it fascinating when I read threads like this on Photrio. The generation gap on this board really comes across when it comes to things like crowdfunding or Patreon. You guys see it in a completely different light.

Luckless · Feb 25, 2019

Patreon has been an excellent addition to the creative arts, and is hardly 'begging'.

Creators provide ongoing value, and supporters make regular contributions to help cover the costs associated with the ongoing value - If a creator's ongoing value stops going, then supporters stop the whole supporting thing... Not sure how that is any more begging than 'begging' an employer to hire and continue paying you, or 'begging' clients to buy your product/service.

Patreon just offers a bundled toolset to creators to have access to a one stop shop for a range of services backed by a known and familiar branding to handle the financial side of things.

slackercrurster · Feb 25, 2019

adelorenzo said:
I find it fascinating when I read threads like this on Photrio. The generation gap on this board really comes across when it comes to things like crowdfunding (Kickstarter, for example) or user-supported content (Patreon, for example). You guys see it in a completely different light.

Yes old timers, old film people. They may have known how to make dye transfer prints or run a nitrogen burst processor, but many of them are baffled by new tech. Some old timers had different political views as well. I read today there is a movement to take John Wayne's name off an airport named after him. (controversy, what else.) This stuff all changes from generation to generation.

I just bot a tablet a couple months ago and can hardly figure it out. I was able to pull up some fat girls on Instagram (they call them thicks) I can't figure out how to post photos on IG from my computer, gave up on it. I know how to use Lightroom and some HDR software (just half ass) but that is about it.

Film was what I knew, everything else has to be learned from scratch.

Gypsy Woman 1973 L.A. Hassy SWC

slackercrurster · Feb 25, 2019

Now, one of the films I got is called Getting His Goat. Just fantastic 1920's flapper porn. The guy in on one side of a fence. He looks though a hole in the fence. He see some nude girls. They come over to the fence. He sticks his hand through the fence and thinks he is touching their privates. But the girls have pushed a goat over to the fence and he rubs the goats beard thinking it is their privates. Then he sticks his member through the hole and the goat work on it while he is thinking it is a girl.

I got another very rare synched dialogue porn called One Enchanted Evening. Extremely rare. Maybe 1940s' I've seen hundreds and hundreds of ancient 16mm stags. Only 2 had synched sound dialogue out of 300 16mm reels from the 1920s to 1950s. Synched dialogue stags rarest of the rare, only ancient French stags are as rare.

Are getting these scanned something that would fly on Patreon?

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

slackercrurster said:
Now, one of the films I got is called Getting His Goat. Just fantastic 1920's flapper porn. The guy in on one side of a fence. He looks though a hole in the fence. He see some nude girls. They come over to the fence. He sticks his hand through the fence and thinks he is touching their privates. But the girls have pushed a goat over to the fence and he rubs the goats beard thinking it is their privates. Then he sticks his member through the hole and the goat work on it while he is thinking it is a girl.

I got another very rare synched dialogue porn called One Enchanted Evening. Extremely rare. Maybe 1940s' I've seen hundreds and hundreds of ancient 16mm stags. Only 2 had synched sound dialogue out of 300 16mm reels from the 1920s to 1950s. Synched dialogue stags rarest of the rare, only ancient French stags are as rare.

Are getting these scanned something that would fly on Patreon?

I don't have your answer. The site itself might.

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

Luckless said:
Patreon has been an excellent addition to the creative arts, and is hardly 'begging'.

Creators provide ongoing value, and supporters make regular contributions to help cover the costs associated with the ongoing value - If a creator's ongoing value stops going, then supporters stop the whole supporting thing... Not sure how that is any more begging than 'begging' an employer to hire and continue paying you, or 'begging' clients to buy your product/service.

Patreon just offers a bundled toolset to creators to have access to a one stop shop for a range of services backed by a known and familiar branding to handle the financial side of things.

To confirm, Google a few subjects and the word patreon. I did that earlier today with PHOTO BOOK.

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

adelorenzo said:
I find it fascinating when I read threads like this on Photrio. The generation gap on this board really comes across when it comes to things like crowdfunding or Patreon. You guys see it in a completely different light.

You're making a careless assumption about generations. Many of the elderly types here are in their 20s and I may be three times your age. Photrio sometimes does however seem to be dominated by grandparents.

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

slackercrurster said:
Where is her radio / YT / online interview? I'd like to hear aggressive women photogs.

I'll treat to find and PM. Might take a week.

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

faberryman said:
Well, if she teaches, she can't be much of a doer. At least I think that's what you have said in other threads. I'm not very impressed with the begging economy.

There are exceptions to every rule

jtk · Feb 25, 2019

jtk said:
I'll treat to find and PM. Might take a week.

Start here: http://www.jessamynlovell.com/

canvassy · Feb 27, 2019

I'm using patreon for a mix of film and digital work. I don't see it as a marketing tool per se, but more of a target to point your other marketing efforts. I advertise my patreon on my instagram, for example. I've only had it up for a few months and haven't really done a lot of marketing for it yet, but I'm hoping to build it up to the point where I can use the funds for a photo book and my first art show hopefully this year. It definitely helps if you have an existing fan base of some sort that you can point over towards your patreon account.

BradS · Feb 27, 2019

adelorenzo said:
I find it fascinating when I read threads like this on Photrio. The generation gap on this board really comes across when it comes to things like crowdfunding or Patreon. You guys see it in a completely different light.

How so? Please elaborate. How do you see it...how do you think "the other generation" (what ever generation you think is at the other side of the generation gap from, I guess, you) sees it?

Patreon for marketing...do you use it?

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