Paper Profiles??

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I understand that I can get the paper profile from the manufacturer...my question is what to do with them when I have them. By that I mean that these will need to be installed...where are they installed? I have a R 2400 and am running Vista on my computer. Any guidance you can give me on this will be greatly appreciated.
 

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Put them in:

../winnt/system32/spool/drivers/color

Then they should show up in the next time you run PS.

~m
 

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May I re-ask Donald Millers question but substitute MAC OS X as the computer...how do you get profiles to appear in the 2400 printer paper pull down...
Guidance appreciated as well. Thanks
 

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Welcome! Nancy,

Tell us more about your work. (of course, only if you want to ).
 

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garri said:
Hi Nancy, HD-Library-Colorsync-Profiles.

Gari.
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Hi Gari,
Thanks.
I'll give this another "go"...the profiles I was downloading did make it into the Library but never showed up in the printer pull down...ahhh, perhaps something went awry.
Nancy
 

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dwross said:
Welcome! Nancy,

Tell us more about your work. (of course, only if you want to ).
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Hello DWROSS and thanks for your welcome. I'm a long time pursuing photography, thirty years plus. Mainly, of course, that means film and darkroom work which I still love, and do. My longest and strongest interest is landscape and I use medium and large format B&W for that prupose. I do my own darkroom work start to finish.
Currently I'm working my way through years of negatives and working on what I've passsed by, subject wise...it's somewhat overwhelming...but long on interest...at least for me.
I find digital exciting, I've been Photoshopping for several years and aside for the obvious technical challenges which I enjoy, I'm finding color exciting, doing still life work with strange objects I've picked up/collected, along the way. I don't know where that project is going and it's got me to wearing out my CS2 books figurinig out how to do this and that.
I consider myself to be an artist, I draw and I "writes a bit". I'm a native Chicagoan and still live only a few suburbs north of there.
I don't know how long I'll be able to "do it all" with film and digital but for now I'm trying...
Nancy
 

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Hi Nancy, I have had times when I can't see a profile in a drop down menu despite seeing it in the correct file. I found that giving it time( no idea why, but it worked) or failing that closing PS then reopening.
They usually show up then.

Hope this helps

Gari
 

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Early versions of Photoshop only scanned that folder when it launched, CS2 and CS3 scan more often (I think). Also if it can't find them you may need to do a disk repair and repair permissions.

If all that doesn't work then you should see if you can open the profile in Color Sync, if it can't the profile may have become corrupt.
 

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I did all you suggested, ran my disk utility, all is well, shut down and re-opened Photoshop, even did a re-start on the computer...no Hahnemuhle on the pull down...
Actually it prints very well with the Epson profile so, not an emergency here.
Might give a call to Epson when time permits, or my trusty MAC man...will keep you posted should I make headway.
Thanks.
Nancy
 

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Where did the profile come from? Also did colorsync give any kind of error? Sorry if I'm a little vague, but I don't do much of this on a Mac, mostly I work with Windows, and all my color tools run on Windows.

It is possible that the name is just not right. There are two names for a profile. One is the file name, and is the one that you normally see. The other is the internal name, and this is what Photoshop will display. If the internal names is something other than what you expect, you'll never find the profile.

Now here is the good news, you can edit the internal name in Colorsync. I'm not going to try and tell you how to do this, because I haven't ever done this, but I know it can be done. Try opening it in Colorsync and changing the internal name to something that you can remember.

If it was a profile that you downloaded from a paper vendor, I could check it if you have problems with Colorsync.
 

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Hi GregE,
I downloaded it from Hahnemuehle. (http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf) It is a zipped file which I unzipped...I placed it in ColorSync, then Profiles as per their directions, re-start Photoshop if open when you downloadd the profiles. "H" then gives you the profiles they have designated and then (I'm puzzled here) they tell you which Media Type (Epsons designations) to choose...
I might try dowloading these from Firefox, they said that they use ZIP foles because Safari has some troubles...BUT...maybe you are supposed to just use the Epson Profiles to print it? The file name in Colorsync is the name they supply for the Epson2400, I've not changed that nor would I know what to change it to...
Anyhow thanks for your help.
Nancy
 

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Nancy,

Something is wrong here. You shouldn't be having any problems with profiles from Hahnemuhle. Do you have a link to the exacts profile(s) that are giving you trouble? Just wondering if it is a specific profile, or several of the profiles offered by Hahnemuhle. I've never heard of Safari giving problem for a download, and I used to make profiles for people and never had a complaint about problems downloading them. I did always zip them though.

Just to make sure that I'm clear on what you are doing...

1. You downloaded X profile in a zipped file to your computer.
2. you unzip the file
3. you put the profile into the library --> colorsync --> profiles folder (not another sub folder)


Now there is one other possibility... There are several places that profiles can end up on a Mac. There is the logged on user --> library --> colorsync --> profiles and there is a global library --> colorsync --> profiles folder

What you might want to do is search your computer for all folders color profiles, or search your computer for .icc or .icm and make sure that your Hahnemuhle profile goes into any folder that contains profiles.

And if you are going to download the profile again, download the Windows version... they are all the same for OSX and Windows, so you might try that. Also maybe even try downloading the OS9 profile, which contains some additional header info (metadata) that OS9 needed, but it will not hurt OSX to have that additional data.
 

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Me Again!
It is loaded correctly...it's available in the Soft Proof selections etc.
My mistake was:
In the first pull down I was selecting "Let Printer Determine Colors" this doesn't allow any Printer Profile selections...changing to "Let Photoshop Determine Colors" opens the next dalogue box "Printer Profile" and there it is (!) after you go to "PRINT" you select "Velvet Fine Art", the Epson profile recommended by Hann...for their Fine Art Papers...(so that's what they meant) I was expectiing that it would appear in the second series of pull downs, not to be...
Thanks for indulging my nonsense..I'm now a wiser 2400 user, thanks to your help.
Nancy
 

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Well good, at least you found what was giving you the problems.
 

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Hi,
It is surprising to me that the subject of "paper profiles" isn't covered anywhere. It's not in the Photoshop tutorial type books, which are very well written, it's not in the Printer set up books, not in MAc materials...nowhere does it even explain where to put the profiles when you download them, quite an information oversight...I came by this accidentally...it takes a whole lot of settings and pull downs to make a print!

Nancy
 

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You are only dealing with about half of what is really available to some of the printing set-ups. But your are correct, the info is missing from many key places. If you search the Epson website, they would have a document that will outline the printing procedures.
 
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