paper for Pd printing

marko_trebusak · Jan 10, 2012

Hi,

Up till now I was printing on Fabriano Artistico TW paper, and usually I get good and predictable results after soaking it in oxalic acid. But now I have a big project coming up in summer. I'll be printing couple hundred of prints and you can imagine that I'm not very keen on acidification of such a pile of paper. So I'm open to alternatives, available in Europe as shipping from States is plain to expensive. I spend quite some time searching APUG and was almost sold on Revere, but recent thread here put me on hold as far as that paper is concerned.

Thanks,
Marko

Manuel G Teixeira · Jan 10, 2012

Bergger COT 320
LOTUS VIEW CAMERA - WELCOME!

Regards

Manuel GT
Portugal

marko_trebusak · Jan 11, 2012

Hi Manuel,

I'll contact Guenter to se, if he can help me. On his site there is no information about Berger anymore.

Thanks,
Marko

Manuel G Teixeira · Jan 14, 2012

marko_trebusak said:
Hi Manuel,

I'll contact Guenter to se, if he can help me. On his site there is no information about Berger anymore.

You'll find prices here:
http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/pdf/bergger_11_d.pdf

Regards

Manuel GT

Loris Medici · Jan 16, 2012

Marko,

Awagami Masa paper. Machine made, sulfite pulp, BUT a very nice and cheap (~USD 1.2 per 21x31" sheet) paper that works great with every iron / iron-silver process I know. Very bright (and almost cold) whites, very smooth surface, clears very quickly, very nice dMax (best of each and every paper I had tried before it). It's pretty thin though (~90 gsm, but quite strong for that weight), not advisable for big (> 30x40cm) prints. (Paper is cheap, therefore shipping from the States isn't much a problem; I ordered three 100 packs of this paper before...)

COT320 is great BTW - even if it doesn't give as good dMax as Masa does... My third choice after Masa and Weston Diploma Parchment. (Pity that Weston isn't a little brighter - too warm for many tastes...)

Regards,
Loris.

marko_trebusak · Jan 20, 2012

Hi Loris,

Thank you for your suggestions, as I'm sure I'll need something pure white in the future. I think I'll start with COT. I talked with orderer, and he would like heavy paper. Would prefer brighter white, but I think he'll be pleased with COT.

Cheers,
Marko

jeffreyg · Jan 20, 2012

Marko,

A couple of years ago I printed a limited edition of pt/pd/au prints with a total of 56 prints (14 each of 4 different images) for another photographer. My advice is to have a very ample supply of the paper you decide on. Shortly after I finished the paper I used was discontinued. A couple of hundred prints is quite an undertaking - more power to you. I printed almost two for each one he was willing to sign. I couldn't convince him that being hand-coated each was was one of a kind especially since they were difficult to print requiring some burning and dodging.

Good luck --- have fun and don't go crazy.

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marko_trebusak · Jan 23, 2012

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for that! I'm crazy for just agree on this project ! But I'm quite sure I'll manage it. The guy knows what "hand coated" means, as I did quite some prints for him in the past, so he knows that sometimes dust and "black plague" are just part of the process, so I'm comfortable on that. I'm in the process of optimization at the moment and first thing to throw out was acidification of othervise nice paper. I'm sure there will be more. Next thing will be to switch from brush to glass rod to save some cost on chemicals.

Thank you for all sugesstions again,
Marko

John Sarsgard · Jan 26, 2012

Awagami Masa?

Loris, great to hear about a new paper that sounds so trouble free! Any special treatment for Awagami Masa, like pretreating with acid? And how are you clearing it? Really sounds good. thanks for mentioning it. John

Loris Medici · Jan 29, 2012

John, it's not a new paper actually; it was suggested to me by Sam Wang (for cyanotypes) years ago. No special treatments at all; just go with your ordinary workflow. It works well with each and every iron / iron-silver process I know!

P.S. Sorry for the late reply; I don't check often...

Regards,
Loris.

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