Pan F and Rodinal??

titrisol · Apr 28, 2005

Peter,
word of experience... use a film/dev combo you are familiar and comfortable with for a photo shoot where you'll get some compensation!
Your frined expects some godd photos, and even though you are more than capable of doing that with PanF, you may blow it.

If I were you, I'd first shoot the "paid" photos of the session and at the end you can shoot a roll of PanF for experiments. Tell them before hand that this is an experiment roll, no guarantees, etc. you may even get your friends more relaxed and pics maybe be the best of them all!

gnashings said:
Ha, I have been using Rodinal as my standard developer. A friend who knew I always wanted to get into this hobby showed up with a bottle of rodinal, half empty (full?) and handed it to me saying:

"you know the B&W shots you admire?" I said yes."Well, here is the stuff - its the Fender Strat, Gibson Les Paul, Porsche 911 of developers - timeless."

OK, I thought.

Didn't know there was such a cult following, and that I was a part of it...
People have told me: "Rodinal makes images grainy", etc.
Is that so? The only other developers I used were "pushing" developers (Microphen) - so obviously, a roll of 100 at 100 in Rodinal will give me no indication of grain vs lets say Delta 400 pushed to 800.

The reason I am here - tomorrow, I am doing my first photo "job" (for a friend, she will pay me by buying film and supplies - so no big "pro" job or anything - but still, I would like to come across as well as I can )

I have never shot PanF, but wanted to try it tomorrow. These will be outdoor portraits (head and full body shots) in period clothing. I wanted the fine grain of a slower film (it will be 35mm), hence my choice.

Now, the question is (thanks for reading the preceeding novel, by the way sorry! ):

Will I get the desired, smooth, fine grained results from Rodinal and Panf? What would be the time/soup combo you think will be best suited for this? Will it depend on the light (sunny, overcast, etc)?

I'm glad I now know where I belong...

Hail Rodinal!

Peter.

gnashings · Apr 29, 2005

titrisol said:
Peter,
word of experience... use a film/dev combo you are familiar and comfortable with for a photo shoot where you'll get some compensation!
Your frined expects some godd photos, and even though you are more than capable of doing that with PanF, you may blow it.

If I were you, I'd first shoot the "paid" photos of the session and at the end you can shoot a roll of PanF for experiments. Tell them before hand that this is an experiment roll, no guarantees, etc. you may even get your friends more relaxed and pics maybe be the best of them all!

Wiser words have never been spoken! I got home after the shoot and started looking at the various opinions about Panf and rodinal...And as I was reading all the varying views on what Panf is how it should be treated...aside from the fact that they were all over the place (I got a 7 minute span on the same dilution from two different sources!) - I realized:

"You idiot, hell of a time to experiment!"

You were much kinder than I was

Luckily, I had a roll of delta in the camera that I forgot was already there - had to shoot it off - so I felt sme relief knowing that I had an "old faithful" to fall back on!

End result of the Pnaf experiment:
Conditions: 5pm, comletely overcast (it started to rain and even hail... thang God for the gazebo and old abandoned building with a roofed veranda!)
Panf rated at 40 (aprox), most shots overexposed one stop over the meter reading (center weighted avg - wanted the face to come out bright)
Rodinal 1+50, 20 deg C (69 F I think) 9 min, agitated 30sec then 10 sec per minute.

Result...(BIG sigh of relief): fairly "normal" looking negatives (density-wise), with what appears to be nice detail in both shadow and highlight (except where I bracketed a few shots to make sure, some where a bit beyond the latitude of the film, I think)

Will print tomorrow - see how they appear in positive!

Thanks for the advice, as always, much appreciated!

joeyk49 · Apr 29, 2005

gnashings said:
Wiser words have never been spoken! I got home after the shoot and started looking at the various opinions about Panf and rodinal...And as I was reading all the varying views on what Panf is how it should be treated...aside from the fact that they were all over the place (I got a 7 minute span on the same dilution from two different sources!) - I realized:

Result...(BIG sigh of relief): fairly "normal" looking negatives (density-wise), with what appears to be nice detail in both shadow and highlight (except where I bracketed a few shots to make sure, some where a bit beyond the latitude of the film, I think)

Will print tomorrow - see how they appear in positive!

Thanks for the advice, as always, much appreciated!

These are the reasons I like this site sooo much! Lots of people sharing their work and advice.

Can't wait to see the prints!

titrisol · Apr 29, 2005

LOL, glad to be of help!
JFYI. I did that mistake on my first paid assignemnt. I had been using bulk loaded Agfapan 100 (not APX back then) as my normal film, and I decided to spend some extra money in Ilford FP3 for that work.....
It turned out OK, my friend was very pleased with the results but I was not happy with myself!! I flet I could have done a better job with my old-faithful

gnashings said:
Wiser words have never been spoken! I got home after the shoot and started looking at the various opinions about Panf and rodinal...And as I was reading all the varying views on what Panf is how it should be treated...aside from the fact that they were all over the place (I got a 7 minute span on the same dilution from two different sources!) - I realized:

"You idiot, hell of a time to experiment!"

You were much kinder than I was

Luckily, I had a roll of delta in the camera that I forgot was already there - had to shoot it off - so I felt sme relief knowing that I had an "old faithful" to fall back on!

End result of the Pnaf experiment:
Conditions: 5pm, comletely overcast (it started to rain and even hail... thang God for the gazebo and old abandoned building with a roofed veranda!)
Panf rated at 40 (aprox), most shots overexposed one stop over the meter reading (center weighted avg - wanted the face to come out bright)
Rodinal 1+50, 20 deg C (69 F I think) 9 min, agitated 30sec then 10 sec per minute.

Result...(BIG sigh of relief): fairly "normal" looking negatives (density-wise), with what appears to be nice detail in both shadow and highlight (except where I bracketed a few shots to make sure, some where a bit beyond the latitude of the film, I think)

Will print tomorrow - see how they appear in positive!

Thanks for the advice, as always, much appreciated!

gnashings · Apr 30, 2005

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