Ortho Film Availibility

just in case you needed some more reading and discussion

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

i think it all depends on what KIND of ortho film
there are several, non-pan variants ...

i was a fan of tri x ortho
when i can scrape up the $$ i look forward to using
ilford ortho to shoot some nice portraits, hopefully it will be similar to what tri x ortho was like ...

dwross said:

Very interesting differences between the 1948 and 1981 editions. Thanks for posting the latter. It would be fascinating to know the reason for the change. That's a lot of years in a man's life. Did he change -- becoming less dogmatic? Did the materials change so that there was less difference between ortho and pan in 1981 than in 1948? Were filters different? I don't suppose it makes much difference to us today, but still, fascinating.

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I can't say why he might have changed, other than the fact that he was big on improving his work. He was always willing, based on what I've read, to try something new if it meant an improvement. Over the years, we've seen how the glass, coatings, and dyes used to make filters have improved. In this edition, he has a whole chapter on filters. I know he used them quite frequently when they added something to the image quality. He may well have felt, even at the end, that trying to simulate older films was less satisfying, but wanted to encourage learning.

Photography has such an intricate history.

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That's one of the rewarding things about working with film. Having that link to something of the way we used to do things is an exciting experience.

Rudeofus said:

I didn't advocate development by inspection, but when thinking about slides to be enlarged in Ilfochrome process, I would be much more willing to try contrast masks if I was able to see the setup while I create the mask.

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I'm sorry if I gave the impression that you advocated it, or that I thought you did. Being able to work in the light would make our work easier, though.

jnanian said:

just in case you needed some more reading and discussion

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

i think it all depends on what KIND of ortho film
there are several, non-pan variants ...

i was a fan of tri x ortho
when i can scrape up the $$ i look forward to using
ilford ortho to shoot some nice portraits, hopefully it will be similar to what tri x ortho was like ...

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Thanks for the link!

There had been so many varying spectral sensitizations over de decades that speaking over ortho and panchro is a generalization anyway in hindsight.