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Opinions on Bergger Warmtone VC?

mrlowlight

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Did the emulsion really change that much when Ilford took over?

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I'd like to compare your old Bergger, Scott, with the Ilford MG Warmtone I just bought. I watched Bob Carnie make some beautiful prints with it weekend before last.
 

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I did a darkroom workshop with Per Volquartz recently (it was excellent).

He uses Bergger Warm Tone FB VC paper which is my first experience with it. Very nice paper with chocolate blacks but not so yellow-orange warm like Ilford Warm Tone. It dries pretty flat. Very nice paper but expensive. Have not seen the cold tone version.

Does Ilford make Bergger paper?
 
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I'm specifically interested in how it takes to toning. The old emulsion was so sensitive to development and toning.
 

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So the Bergger warmtone paper is appreciably different to MGWT?

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Tom Kershaw said:
So the Bergger warmtone paper is appreciably different to MGWT?

Tom.
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My plan: pick up some Bergger warmtone on my way over to Scott's with my package of Ilford MGWT and then we'll be able to compare all three. (Does Penn sell Bergger VCCB?)
 
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I test drove a 8x10, 25 sheet package of Bergger FB WT. My base paper is Oriental WT. Bergger has a whiter base than Ilford or Oriental WT. The contrast is a tad less in the low zones vs Oriental, but expands the higher zones by a 1/2 step. Lightly toned (3 min) in KRST 1:10, the color cools to be more neutral than the somewhat yellowish color of Ilford WT. Tone more deeply and color shifts to red hues. There are two types of Oriental WT circulating. The Oriental referenced is the emulsion with the white base.
 
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