oops! I guess I just bought another lens...

[BradS]

What just happened? Has rational behaviour returned to that auction site? I bid low and early and still won this.

I thought that the going price for the 90mm Angulons was more like $125...am I up-in-the-night? and, how do I explain this one to my accountant? Sheesh...here comes that old addiction again....

 

[bobfowler]

I thought about bidding on that one (a light weight 90 for the Speed Graphic would be nice), but held off because it is a non sync shutter.

Congrats on a great deal!

 

[Dave Parker]

Hey Brad,

I will give $80 bucks for it right now! LOL, I sold mine and am sorry I did now, it worked good for the landscapes!

Dave

 

[MattCarey]

I have the country cousin of that one--the 90mm raptar. Haven't tried it out yet. I was thinking that I needed something smaller than the Super Angulon I borrow and just threw a random bid on eBay for the Raptar. I was shocked to get it.

I made the pact to buy no more toys. Cross that 8x10 off my list.

Of course, two lenses showed up last night....

Matt

 

[jjstafford]

What just happened? Has rational behaviour returned to that auction site? I bid low and early and still won this.

Let us know how it works out. It is apparently of the early Angulon series which had some unfortunate optical issues that Zeiss worked out later. Might be interesting!

 

[MattCarey]

"oops! I guess I just bought another lens... "

Is that the song Britney Spears will sing for the APUG conference?

 

[Dan Fromm]

Brad, it was fairly well hidden and the seller comes off as pretty ignorant. Not a good combination, from the seller's point of view.

 

[Dan Fromm]

Let us know how it works out. It is apparently of the early Angulon series which had some unfortunate optical issues that Zeiss worked out later. Might be interesting!

Zeiss, John? Are you sure? I thought there were other lens makers in Germany.

 

[BradS]

Thanks everybody...I feel better. It'll be fun to see what this one will do. With any luck at all the glass will be clean and all I'll need to do is get the shutter CLA'd...

Its been another crazy day here...we're trying to get a pre-release out...

Thanks again all....

 

[bobfowler]

Thanks everybody...I feel better. It'll be fun to see what this one will do. With any luck at all the glass will be clean and all I'll need to do is get the shutter CLA'd...

Its been another crazy day here...we're trying to get a pre-release out...

Thanks again all....

Hey, at what you paid for the lens and shutter, if the glass is bad but the shutter salvagable, you're still ahead of the game.

 

[jimgalli]

Tell the accountant that you could double your $$ on that Good lens, you'll enjoy it. jg

 

[BradS]

Hey, at what you paid for the lens and shutter, if the glass is bad but the shutter salvagable, you're still ahead of the game.

Hmmm, good point Bob. I never thought of it like that....I think may use that line of reasoning to soften the blow a little when I break the news to my accountant.

The really dangerous thing is that this one transaction could potentially undo the last 6 months or so I've spent trying to brainwash myself in to believing that the auction site was a bad place....bad, bad evil place....oh, but what's this? a counter example?

Hear that sucking sound anyone?

 

[BradS]

Tell the accountant that you could double your $$ on that Good lens, you'll enjoy it. jg

good idea...and if that doesn't work...the new piano in our living room may trump the whole issue!

 

[jjstafford]

Zeiss, John? Are you sure? I thought there were other lens makers in Germany.

I screwed up, didn't I. I hate it when that happens, and I do appreciate the correction, Dan. ... need sleep... need sleep...

 

[Ole]

That Angulon is a post-WWII single-coated lens. Schneider had some quality control issues at the time, but most of the lenses are from decent to exellent. My own 90/6.8 has a scratch (canyon) in the rear element, but is still very sharp.

BTW, I just won a 210/6.8 Angulon, uncoated. If the unsubstantiated rumors are correct, it will have even more coverage than the later ones. The construction happens to be just about identical to the Schneider logo!

 

[mmcclellan]

A nice lesson to be learned here is misspellings in eBay titles! Whenever I do a search for a particular piece of gear, I try out some possible misspellings -- e.g. Leica vs. Lieca, 8x10 vs. 8 x 10 vs 8x 10, etc. Notice that the seller spelled it "Angulton" so a normal search would never have found it.

 

[John_Brewer]

There are some bargains to be had on Feebay. I managed to 'buy it now' an 8x10 Grover with a 5x4 back including a monster Tessar and Packard shutter for $50.

On the lens Brad has bought can someone enlighten me what that thing is on the bottom left of the lensboard.

 

[BradS]

There are some bargains to be had on Feebay. I managed to 'buy it now' an 8x10 Grover with a 5x4 back including a monster Tessar and Packard shutter for $50.

On the lens Brad has bought can someone enlighten me what that thing is on the bottom left of the lensboard.

John, I think you must be referring to the solenoid. This is an electro-mechanical device that, when actuated, trips the shutter.

 

[Dave Parker]

John, I think you must be referring to the solenoid. This is an electro-mechanical device that, when actuated, trips the shutter.

Brad,

That should also have a couple of holes in it, which were used to connect the flash system on the graphic cameras, you can adjust the solinoid to different delays to sync with the flash.

Dave

 

[BradS]

Dave, The 135mm Xenar that came with my Crown Graphic has the same solenoid. I've experimented with it but never actually used it to expose film. Appears that 4.5VDC is sufficient to accuate it. Anyway, I don't have one of those nifty chrome flashbulb thingies but have often thought it would be cool to wire up a simple remote trigger switch. I guess all the stops me is the desire to find "the right" connector for those two holes....any idea where a guy might find a proper cable that plugs in there? What are they called?

 

[Dave Parker]

Brad,

Let me look around here, I may have one or two of them, that I have got with various purchases.

Dave

 

[BradS]

Excellent! Let me know what you find and how much you want for it.

 

[MattCarey]

I guess all the stops me is the desire to find "the right" connector for those two holes....any idea where a guy might find a proper cable that plugs in there? What are they called?

If you don't find it elswhere, check paramount sync cords. The tend to have every wacky connector.

Matt

 

[Seele]

BTW: why some people diss the Angulon

I have been using Angulons for years and found them fully satisfactory, but online discussions always come up with people saying how bad they really are. This I discovered is an issue concerning how the individual lens was stored...

If you look at the old Schneider logo, with "Schneider Optik Kreuznach" in the diagram of a lens group, that lens group is half of an Angulon. since the inner surfaces of the two opposing halves have to be held really close to each other, each cemented group could only be held in the cell by the edge of the large front-most element. In other words, each half has two elements with no visible support other than the optical cement.

With an Angulon stored with its optical axis horizontal (as in leaving it on a camera), over time, the cement will gradually slip, making the elements slip out of alignment; that opens up a pandora's box of optical faults, even if the amount of slippage is tiny. In other words, Angulons (and for that matter, all large-format lenses) should be stored with optical axes vertical.

When considering the purchase of an Angulon, I always take the cells out of the shutter for a good look. After the elements were cemented, the edge of the whole group was painted with black paint; slippage of the element will result in the paint flaking off around the cement joints. If the edging paint is in good order, then you are in for a good start.

 

[BradS]

Interesting analysis Seele. I hope this is one of the good ones. If it, in fact, turns out to have element "droop"...is there a remedy?