one of the earliest colour films bought at flea market

gr82bart · Mar 29, 2016

What an amazing find

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/montreal/film-found-colour-quebec-1.3505012

Regards, Art

Nodda Duma · Mar 30, 2016

That's very cool. Thank you for sharing.

Theo Sulphate · Mar 30, 2016

The colors have lasted well over all this time. I'm impressed.

Funny thing though: because it's in color, it's a little bit hard for me to grasp that it's 1929. I expect the pre-1950 world to be black and white.

cowanw · Mar 30, 2016

Of course it is in Black and White; The article is very clear on that. It is just falsely presented as colour in the projection stage.

Kyle M. · Mar 30, 2016

Theo Sulphate said:
The colors have lasted well over all this time. I'm impressed.

Funny thing though: because it's in color, it's a little bit hard for me to grasp that it's 1929. I expect the pre-1950 world to be black and white.[/Kodachrome was released in 1935, the Sanger Shepherd method of color photography came about circa 1900, and there were several processes for creating color photos earlier than that. "A Trip to the Moon" is a 1902 French silent movie that was originally released in both B&W and color, with the film stock itself being hand painted.

Theo Sulphate said:
The colors have lasted well over all this time. I'm impressed.

Funny thing though: because it's in color, it's a little bit hard for me to grasp that it's 1929. I expect the pre-1950 world to be black and white.

Kodachrome was released in 1935, the Sanger Shepherd method of color photography came about circa 1900, and there were several processes for creating color photos earlier than that. "A Trip to the Moon" is a 1902 French silent movie that was originally released in both B&W and color, with the film stock itself being hand painted.

cowanw · Mar 30, 2016

As mentioned in the article the process was Kodacolor, on the market in 1928. Wiki has a nice article which describes the image and fits well with the News article movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodacolor_(filmmaking)

This site has excellent examples of old processes

http://zauberklang.ch/filmcolors/search/kodacolor

Here is the original paper. How come PhotoEngineers name isn't on it?

Capstaff, J. G. and Seymour, M.W. (1928): The Kodacolor Process for Amateur Color Cinematography. In: Transactions of the Society of Motion Picture Engineers, 12, pp. 940—947.

bvy · Mar 30, 2016

cowanw said:
Of course it is in Black and White; The article is very clear on that. It is just falsely presented as colour in the projection stage.

Nothing false about it. I certainly don't feel cheated when I watch a three strip Technicolor film!

cowanw · Mar 30, 2016

Well, I think Theo and I were writing in Humour.
I like Technicolor too but this is not that, as Technicolor was not an amateur process

Prof_Pixel · Mar 30, 2016

Theo Sulphate said:
The colors have lasted well over all this time. I'm impressed.

That's because the colors aren't in/on the film - they're from a filter used during projection.

benjiboy · Mar 30, 2016

It's a chastening thought I had that everyone depicted in these images even the kids are now dead

pdeeh · Mar 30, 2016

IS it being so cheerful that keeps you going, benjiboy?

Theo Sulphate · Mar 30, 2016

cowanw said:
Of course it is in Black and White; The article is very clear on that. It is just falsely presented as colour in the projection stage.

What I mean is, despite The Wizard of Oz or even paintings by Monet and other artists, the typical image we've been presented of the pre-1950 world is a predominantly black-and-white world. Consequently, there's an almost automatic mental B&W image of pre-1950 events.

Hindenberg. Happened in B&W, didn't it?

Well, not really, but that's how I visualize it.

Prof_Pixel said:
That's because the colors aren't in/on the film - they're from a filter used during projection.

Oh - I didn't realize that. Oops.

Theo Sulphate · Mar 30, 2016

benjiboy said:
It's a chastening thought I had that everyone depicted in these images even the kids are now dead

The kids could be in their late 80's today maybe.

Sirius Glass · Mar 30, 2016

Theo Sulphate · Mar 30, 2016

Excellent.

falotico · Mar 31, 2016

This is a real color process and the final image is a true representation of the natural color of the scene. The clear plastic support of the film is molded into multiple rows of tiny lenses. Think of each of these lenses as a pixel. The camera has a filter in front of its main lens which is composed of three vertical stripes in the primary colors: red green and blue. Each lens of the pixel projects an image of these three stripes on to the emulsion. If the element of the scene is mostly red, then the red stripe is illuminated and the film is exposed under that stripe of the pixel. The emulsion is developed as a reversal and when projected through a projector with a striped color filter the color values are reassembled and an additive image of the scene is reproduced. Basically the Kodacolor system was a dodge to allow a black and white emulsion capture a color scene.

studiocarter · May 3, 2016

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one of the earliest colour films bought at flea market

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