Omega View 45 D,E,F,G and so on....What is the difference on these 4x5's?

[harlequin]

Dear Team,

Happy Holidays,

 

[harlequin]

Not sure what happened however what are the major differences other than vintage with these
Various Omega models...on the used market they are all priced pretty close to each other...

A) which is the best model
B) any experience and/or opinions appreciated
C) I know these are entry level or student cameras, however good enough for my work..
D) anything to look out for when purchasing 20-30 yo camera?



The calumet cadet and Alpina look like interesting options but double the price of Omega...

Many Thanks,


Harlequin

 

[Donald Qualls]

As I understood it, B, C, D, E, and possibly F were sizes. D is 4x5, E is 5x7, B is 6x6 and C 6x9. Might have been an A for 35mm only, maybe an F (don't recall if Omega had an 8x10).

Oh, and these are enlargers; If there were Omega cameras, they were a different company entirely.

 

[Paul Howell]

B was 35mm to 6X6 or 6X9 depending on head, C s 3 1X4 by 3X 3 1/4, was not on market very long, the D was 4X5 E 5X7 and F was 10X10. D was in production for a very long time, D2 to D6, the D6 was based on the D2 with some upgrades, The D3 was a D2 with auto focus. Not sure if there was a D7, the last models were labeled pro lab, the D6 and later D5 had double bellows and did not require lens cones.

 

[Paul Howell]

In terms of best model, all rugged, for 4X5 I would go with a late D5 or D6 so you don't need to fuss with lens cones. I've had my D3 for 30 years, of course it was used when I got it. Then again, if you are only enlarging 4X5 then a D2 with standard condenser and filter drawer is inexpensive.

 

[harlequin]

Hi
I need to get this thread back on track.

Omega D, E, F, G. Are ALL. 4x5 view cameras.
If these were enlargers I prob would have posted in Darkroom Equip section..

I own a old Omega d2 enlarger so I know what that is, these however are all 4x5 view cameras, However other than that
I want to know the features /pros/cons of each so I can make the best purchase with my limited budget.

Many Thanks
Appreciate it


Harlequin

 

[ic-racer]

Maybe search "Toyo" for example in this linked PDF document D, C, M, AR and G are described:
https://www.cameraeccentric.com/static/img/pdfs/toyo_1.pdf

 

[BobD]

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Omega_View

 

[B.S.Kumar]

I've sold a large number of Toyo cameras over the years. Here is a summary:

1. Omega View 45D / Toyo View E: Fixed bellows, hollow monorail without extension capability, all manual movements, flat riser arms.
2. Omega View 45C / Toyo View 45C: Interchangeable bellows, hollow monorail without extension capabilitygeared rise/fall, all other movements are manual, flat riser arms, microfocusing.
3. Toyo View 45G: Interchangeable bellows and monorail, geared rise/fall and shift, all other movements are manual, round riser arms, chrome finish, hard plastic knobs, microfocusing.
4. Toyo View 45GII: Same as 45G, with black finish, rubber covered knobs, different locking system for extension monorails, newer style bellows
5. Toyo View GX: Same as 45GII, with added base tilts on both standards
6. Toyo View Robos: Looks similar to Sinar P series with fully geared movements, same rails, bellows as 45G series.
7. Toyo View 45CX: Polycarbonate construction, Toyo Field lensboards, interchangeable bellows (difficult to find), same monorails as G series.
8. Toyo VX125: Compact field/studio monorail with collapsible monorail, new style bellows, geared rise/fall, shift. The VX125R has manual rise/fall.

Older models:
9. Toyo (first version): S shaped arms - I've only seen a photo, no idea of features.
10. Toyo View: Gray gunmetal finish, small round locking knobs for rise/fall, 28mm extendable monorail with round end caps and geared focusing along the entire length, geared shift, interchangeable bellows, revolving bail back
11. Toyo View Deluxe: Greenish finish, 28mm extendable monorail with plastic caps and geared focusing along the entire length, geared shift, interchangeable bellows, revolving bail back. The monorail will fit model 10, but the components are not interchangeable.
12. Toyo View D45: Same as 11, with beige finish
13. Toyo View D45M: Same as 12, with black finish.

All backs, bellows and lens boards are interchangeable among all models, except the CX which uses different bellows and lens boards. 39mm rails are interchangeable among the first group. 28mm rails are interchangeable among the second group with the caveat noted above.
Backs came in several models, though all of them will fit all the cameras. The first ones were revolving bail backs, next came G style bail backs, then the same with longer arms in which Polaroid backs could be inserted and finally, revolving Graflok backs. The backs will fit Toyo Field cameras as well - 45A, 45AII, 45CF and the reducing adapter on the Original Field half plate camera.
Lens board adapters are/were made for Linhof, Speed Graphic, Horseman 80mm and Sinar/Horseman 140mm boards.

Hope this helps. I have D45, G and GII cameras for sale, in case you are interested.
Kumar

 

[harlequin]

Mr. Kamari,

You get the GOLD star!
Thank you for your descriptions and detail, from your knowledge that runs deep on both
Toyo and Sinar......

Thank You!

Question, did Omega or Toyo market view camera with tapered bellows?
With D, E, F only the F has interchangeable bellows?
How much would a G2 be, and do you have photos?
I have never seen a robos, I am assuming a sinar p2 price point?

If I do not have a PayPal account, what is my other payment option as I have seen a very diverse and clean
Group of equipment in your inventory.

Regards,

Vincent/Harlequin

 

[harlequin]

Corrected, Mr. Kumar

 

[B.S.Kumar]

Vincent,

I am not too familiar with the Omega model numbers.

Only the Toyo 45CX had tapered bellows and accepted Toyo Field lens boards.
The Omega View 45D is known as the Toyo E in Japan, and had a fixed bellows. All other cameras have interchangeable bellows.

I sent you a private message regarding your other questions.

Kumar

 

[Petrochemist]

I've sold a large number of Toyo cameras over the years. Here is a summary:

1. Omega View 45D / Toyo View E: Fixed bellows, hollow monorail without extension capability, all manual movements, flat riser arms.
2. Omega View 45C / Toyo View 45C: Interchangeable bellows, hollow monorail without extension capabilitygeared rise/fall, all other movements are manual, flat riser arms, microfocusing.
3. Toyo View 45G: Interchangeable bellows and monorail, geared rise/fall and shift, all other movements are manual, round riser arms, chrome finish, hard plastic knobs, microfocusing.
4. Toyo View 45GII: Same as 45G, with black finish, rubber covered knobs, different locking system for extension monorails, newer style bellows
5. Toyo View GX: Same as 45GII, with added base tilts on both standards
6. Toyo View Robos: Looks similar to Sinar P series with fully geared movements, same rails, bellows as 45G series.
7. Toyo View 45CX: Polycarbonate construction, Toyo Field lensboards, interchangeable bellows (difficult to find), same monorails as G series.
8. Toyo VX125: Compact field/studio monorail with collapsible monorail, new style bellows, geared rise/fall, shift. The VX125R has manual rise/fall.

Older models:
9. Toyo (first version): S shaped arms - I've only seen a photo, no idea of features.
10. Toyo View: Gray gunmetal finish, small round locking knobs for rise/fall, 28mm extendable monorail with round end caps and geared focusing along the entire length, geared shift, interchangeable bellows, revolving bail back
11. Toyo View Deluxe: Greenish finish, 28mm extendable monorail with plastic caps and geared focusing along the entire length, geared shift, interchangeable bellows, revolving bail back. The monorail will fit model 10, but the components are not interchangeable.
12. Toyo View D45: Same as 11, with beige finish
13. Toyo View D45M: Same as 12, with black finish.

All backs, bellows and lens boards are interchangeable among all models, except the CX which uses different bellows and lens boards. 39mm rails are interchangeable among the first group. 28mm rails are interchangeable among the second group with the caveat noted above.
Backs came in several models, though all of them will fit all the cameras. The first ones were revolving bail backs, next came G style bail backs, then the same with longer arms in which Polaroid backs could be inserted and finally, revolving Graflok backs. The backs will fit Toyo Field cameras as well - 45A, 45AII, 45CF and the reducing adapter on the Original Field half plate camera.
Lens board adapters are/were made for Linhof, Speed Graphic, Horseman 80mm and Sinar/Horseman 140mm boards.

Hope this helps. I have D45, G and GII cameras for sale, in case you are interested.
Kumar

Very interesting & tells me much more about the various versions than I'd found previously!
I have a a deluxe & a D45M and another that was sold as a D45E but has features different than any of your summaries-
It takes the larger 39mm rails, has fixed bellows, but has geared rise & fall, micro focusing & round riser arms (like the G but not chromed). Any ideas?

I'd also be interested to get an idea of when these modes were introduced, there doesn't seem to be much info on the older models available to my search engines

 

[DREW WILEY]

Toyo and Omega alphabetical designations are unrelated. Omega B = a small enlarger with medium format film capacity; D-series = 4X5, and a matching single bulb colorhead; E = 5X7 capacity, still single-bulb; F + 8x10 film capacity with a four-bulb colorhead (and much larger, more heavily-built chassis too).

 

[MattKing]

I finally got around to tweaking the title to this thread, because in its former state, I read it every time as referencing Omega enlargers!
I hope you have the answers you needed.

 

[KinoGrafx]

Hi! I had an omega 45d years ago I used to shoot architecture, and it was a really solid, basic monorail. I remember a 90mm was about the shortest I could comfortably go (with a recessed board), and it was a HEAVY chunk of camera, but quite nice to use, and I enjoyed carting it all over the place.

 

[Sirius Glass]

At Kodak I used the darkroom which were made available to employees after hours. They had the Chromega Dichoric II 5D-XL. After a left Kodak and went back to Los Angeles to continue living in my place I was able to but the same enlarger on Craig's List and an Arkay drum print dryer to start my darkroom in my place.

 

[MattKing]

At Kodak I used the darkroom which were made available to employees after hours. They had the Chromega Dichoric II 5D-XL. After a left Kodak and went back to Los Angeles to continue living in my place I was able to but the same enlarger on Craig's List and an Arkay drum print dryer to start my darkroom in my place.

Sirius - this is a thread about Omega View cameras, not Omega enlargers.

 

[harlequin]

Omega View Cameras
C
D-E-F-G. Are all 4x5 models with different features
The newer Cx is a 4x5 with Tapered Bellows